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Archiving "The Famous Computer Cafe"

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In the episode with Joel Berez (Infocom) [1], he says people spent years trying to solve Zork. Imagine saying that about a modern game. [1] at 24:00 mark https://archive.org/details/the-famous-computer-cafe-1985-07...

I was one of those people. Or months at least along with a group of my high school friends. Most of the infocom games took between a few weeks to a few months of obsessive game play to get through & we played them all.

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Transcript of Gene Roddenberry interview (h/t slashdot) https://archive.org/details/Gene-Roddenberry-Interview-Trans... What kind of database could one access from a PC in 1985 from which one could learn about saltwqter crocodiles?

There were lots of PC databases, of which dBase was one of the more popular ones.

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Timothy Leary said PCs are the LSD of the 1990s. If that’s true, then AI is definitely the LSD of the 2020s.

The LSD of this century is social networks. People now see reality through them, with distortions and all.

Social networks were the LSD of the 2000s and 2010s. I would say the "cocaine" of those decades, because it wasn't particularly enlightening, it made some of us belligerent, and at this point we all regret it. At least we're starting to build some tolerance now.

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Timothy Leary said PCs are the LSD of the 1990s. If that’s true, then AI is definitely the LSD of the 2020s.

AI is on LSD not THE LSD smh

If you look at how PCs were used in the 1990s some of it was pretty trippy, so you could also say "PCs were on LSD." Take Andy Warhol's Amiga: https://www.wired.com/2014/05/watch-andy-warhol-computer-art...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI is on LSD not THE LSD smh

If you look at how PCs were used in the 1990s some of it was pretty trippy, so you could also say "PCs were on LSD." Take Andy Warhol's Amiga: https://www.wired.com/2014/05/watch-andy-warhol-computer-art...

Cursed Andy Warhol MSPaint 1.0 selfie

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The LSD of this century is social networks. People now see reality through them, with distortions and all.

Social networks were the LSD of the 2000s and 2010s. I would say the "cocaine" of those decades, because it wasn't particularly enlightening, it made some of us belligerent, and at this point we all regret it. At least we're starting to build some tolerance now.

You'll have to define "we all". Politically, most discourse that matters still flows through Facebook and Twitter/X, and will likely continue to do so until alternatives emerge.

Once knowledge moved to the online world, it was inevitable that debate would follow. This cat is not going back in the bag. We might refine our tools a little bit, but things are unlikely to change significantly for a very long time - possibly ever.

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Social networks were the LSD of the 2000s and 2010s. I would say the "cocaine" of those decades, because it wasn't particularly enlightening, it made some of us belligerent, and at this point we all regret it. At least we're starting to build some tolerance now.

You'll have to define "we all". Politically, most discourse that matters still flows through Facebook and Twitter/X, and will likely continue to do so until alternatives emerge. Once knowledge moved to the online world, it was inevitable that debate would follow. This cat is not going back in the bag. We might refine our tools a little bit, but things are unlikely to change significantly for a very long time - possib…

> This cat is not going back in the bag. We might refine our tools a little bit, but things are unlikely to change significantly for a very long time - possibly ever.

Yes, agreed. This is called "addiction".

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post #22

Transcript of Gene Roddenberry interview (h/t slashdot) https://archive.org/details/Gene-Roddenberry-Interview-Trans... What kind of database could one access from a PC in 1985 from which one could learn about saltwqter crocodiles?

There were lots of PC databases, of which dBase was one of the more popular ones.

So there was a content-layer market for the early PC-based DBMS's, a la someone marketing the early 1980s equivalent of Wikipedia or Encarta?

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There were lots of PC databases, of which dBase was one of the more popular ones.

So there was a content-layer market for the early PC-based DBMS's, a la someone marketing the early 1980s equivalent of Wikipedia or Encarta?

Yes, but as I recall it was a rather tiny subset of the database market unless one was very forward thinking and had Internet access and/or was part of a BBS community that shared information electronically which put you in the minority of the minority at the time. Financial market data was probably the largest one early on. Mostly individuals and small businesses were just rolling their own solutions and entering the data themselves until the late 80's / early 90's. Larger businesses had many of islands of systems and data but it was nearly all internal or used to generate paper documents... even internally.

Roughly speaking: prior to the 80's one (often) wrote their own programs, prior to the 90's one entered their own data (i.e. for structured content like databases and spreadsheets), prior to the 00's one created their own content (i.e. documents etc.)

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I started to listen to Bill Gates' interview [1], just to hear what he had in mind back then. Sounded almost topical in today's world. AI was mentioned, and predicting users' input in the distant future. Side note, archive.org has two players. The first one doesn't have a timestamp where you currently are. The second player, the Winamp clone does have it, but I don't think one can link to specific parts. [1] The Bill…

> The second player, the Winamp clone Wait, what the Winamp clone? Clicks link This is beautiful, thank you for this!

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