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Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by tedk-42 »

As an Aussie observer, I'm seeing more US influence in our region.

With some 'diplomacy', Julian Assange was brought home after near 15 years fighting for BS extradition charges.

The news and politicians in Australia follow almost lock step with whatever our US overlords allow us to say.

It's been more of a thing lately with them trying to secure the pacific away from China's sphere of influence and the biggest 'dumb' thing from our government is that silly submarine deal (under something called AUKUS) which is about as good as our F-35 jets purchased (totally useless IMO).

There's probably some bootlickers in NZ trying to gain political favour / power by brown-nosing with the US of A.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by actionfromafar »

enriquec wrote: post #17
nxicvyvy wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just like trump eh? Is everyone you don't like a Russian spy?

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. The degree to which the propaganda works is alarming. They'll turn a blind eye to Ross Ulbricht, Snowden, the Patriot Act, etc. while wasting their time foaming at the mouth at made up stories about Russia. Unreal to see in this day and age, honestly - I mean you'd think the internet + a little critical thinking would have given these people a clue.

Two bad (and sad) things can be true at the same time.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by Taniwha »

ionwake wrote: post #18

Anyone know why this is prioritised? Wasn't this copyright stuff from like 2 decades ago? Just genuinely curious.

He fought it all the way and ran out of options, we have a more right leaning government now who want to suck up to the US

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by preaching5271 »

I appreciate Kim Dotcom for running MegaUpload and later Mega, in a time when the internet was younger and wilder. Also for his pirate spirit and "stick it to the man" attitude. But everything has a limit, specifically his resistance against the law, even if he hid it behind virtues. I think it's clear for everybody that one cannot get away with this kind of stuff, once governments get involved. Isn't it wiser to stop at some point, and find other stuff to do, even if all your nerves say otherwise? But people are superficial and tend to develop an "i'm the main character" personality, pushing them into recklessness, like persisting doing certain things or publicly talking shit. Hope he and his family will be ok.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by finikytou »

popcalc wrote: post #2

One-way flight to Russia? His Twitter feed for the last decade does give merit to the idea that he's been on the payroll.

sad to see that kind of comments in HN. I feel that 10 years ago there was more room for accepting that a political opponent should be free to speak up. now our educated masses are pushing for prison and extradition because they don't belong to the axis of good.... you def cannot be for opensource and its values and say things like that

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by diggan »

ionwake wrote: post #18

Anyone know why this is prioritised? Wasn't this copyright stuff from like 2 decades ago? Just genuinely curious.

If the media industry is successful in using DMCA against foreign residents to put them in US jail, it'll be a huge deterrent against any other similar people hosting similar platforms in countries with US extradition treaties.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by DaleNeumann »

I know little about this case but remember the wild show Kim put on before his arrest. The way I saw it then was his colleagues pleaded guilty and where never extradited so my assumption was new Zealand would bend to his favour but I guess interpretation of rule of law is above precedence... I wish I could say I know what Im talking about.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by throwaway48540 »

diggan wrote: post #20
throwaway48540 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still a human. He just shared songs on the the internet. He's treated like a war criminal.

Maybe I don't know the full story, but as far as I understand, it seems like they (Megaupload) were ignoring DMCA takedown requests for a long time, was aware there was a ton of piracy on the site and didn't give any indication whatsoever that they were even trying to react to it by banning accounts that were uploading infringing content. I don't necessarily agree you should be taken away from your home-country becau…

He shared a lot of them. Still absolutely not something that should lead to this multiple-state sanctioned response.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by finikytou »

popcalc wrote: post #8
wepple wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not categorize him as “small folk like us”

Agree. "Two weeks later on 20 January, Dotcom, Finn Batato, Mathias Ortmann and Bram van der Kolk were arrested in Coatesville, New Zealand by the New Zealand Police, in an armed raid on Dotcom's house involving 76 officers and two helicopters. Seized assets included eighteen luxury cars, large TVs, works of art and US$175 million in cash. Dotcom's bank accounts were frozen, denying him access to 64 bank accounts wor…

how old are you? did you live through the megaupload era? for a few years it was ubiquitous and def a cashcow machine

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by moralestapia »

Sad news. I don't really know if there's more than the file sharing thing behind this, but the US is cracking down too hard on this guy. Seems unfair, tbh.

The raid at his NZ home was already taking it too far, IMO.

I do not think he's a criminal. A big (massive, maybe) fine should have been more than enough.

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