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Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

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Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

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Post by bingbing »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #4

TLDR: Linus at a Q&A, a woman asks why Nvidia still isn't providing any support for Optimus on Linux, Linus responds that Nvidia is being really difficult about that without good reason and "Fuck You Nvidia!" (flicks off the camera). Her question actually starts a minute earlier than the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShbP3OpASA&t=48m14s PS - Bravo Linus. This is issue is a real PITA, and a bit incongruent con…

Your link didn't quite work for me, starting in the 49th minute somewhere,

Using a fragment identifier to demarc the time offset works better for me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShbP3OpASA#t=48m14s

Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

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Post by flabbergasted »

simonbrown wrote: post #19
flabbergasted wrote: post #7

From "If you like subversion, you are ugly and stupid" and now this. I always enjoy this man's talks.

It was CVS.

His comment was more general:

"You can disagree with me as much as you want, but during this talk, by definition, anybody who disagrees is stupid and ugly, so keep that in mind."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8&feature=youtu...

Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

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Post by forrestthewoods »

alecco wrote: post #15
SkyMarshal wrote: post #4

TLDR: Linus at a Q&A, a woman asks why Nvidia still isn't providing any support for Optimus on Linux, Linus responds that Nvidia is being really difficult about that without good reason and "Fuck You Nvidia!" (flicks off the camera). Her question actually starts a minute earlier than the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShbP3OpASA&t=48m14s PS - Bravo Linus. This is issue is a real PITA, and a bit incongruent con…

That doesn't reflect his opinion. First, Linus states Nvidia is an exception, one of the worst trouble spots. And he is also very upset because Nvidia at the same time tries to sell a lot of chips into the Android market, a Linux based system. Very ungrateful of Nvidia. I agree, fuck Nvidia.

Ungrateful? Since when is that part of any sensible business plan? I don't know why Linus would expect a corporation to devote significant resources to an endeavor out of kindness. Nvidia will play nicely with Linux when it becomes in their financial interests to do so.

Edit: I expected downvotes and I'll gladly take them if someone can explain to me how Nvidia is being unreasonable.

Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

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Post by g-garron »

forrestthewoods wrote: post #25
alecco wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't reflect his opinion. First, Linus states Nvidia is an exception, one of the worst trouble spots. And he is also very upset because Nvidia at the same time tries to sell a lot of chips into the Android market, a Linux based system. Very ungrateful of Nvidia. I agree, fuck Nvidia.

Ungrateful? Since when is that part of any sensible business plan? I don't know why Linus would expect a corporation to devote significant resources to an endeavor out of kindness. Nvidia will play nicely with Linux when it becomes in their financial interests to do so. Edit: I expected downvotes and I'll gladly take them if someone can explain to me how Nvidia is being unreasonable.

You are right, business are business. But you do not need to be a badass. And the world changes (the ones that needs you now, will be the ones you need tomorrow), I have learned that the most grateful you are in business, the better business you do. Edited for clarity.

Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

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Post by CrazedGeek »

Intermediate wrote: post #18
tshadwell wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still much harder to find ATI drivers for Linux than Nvidia drivers.

There is basically no nvidia drivers available for many modern mobile GPUs on Linux, so I doubt that Nvidia is more linux friendly than ATI/AMD nowadays.

Which GPUs? The only one I can find that they're not supporting yet is the GeForce GTX 680M.

Re: Aalto Talk with Linus Torvalds

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Post by alecco »

forrestthewoods wrote: post #25
alecco wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't reflect his opinion. First, Linus states Nvidia is an exception, one of the worst trouble spots. And he is also very upset because Nvidia at the same time tries to sell a lot of chips into the Android market, a Linux based system. Very ungrateful of Nvidia. I agree, fuck Nvidia.

Ungrateful? Since when is that part of any sensible business plan? I don't know why Linus would expect a corporation to devote significant resources to an endeavor out of kindness. Nvidia will play nicely with Linux when it becomes in their financial interests to do so. Edit: I expected downvotes and I'll gladly take them if someone can explain to me how Nvidia is being unreasonable.

Linus rightfully singled them out. Are you saying the others are stupid?! Nvidia has the behaviour of a sociopath.
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