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2.9B hit in one of largest data breaches; full names and SSNs exposed

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>As reported by Bloomberg, news of this massive new data breach was revealed as part of a class action lawsuit that was filed at the beginning of this month. I am so looking forward to getting my 2.99 USD check from this suit. Of course I need to apply for that check via an on-line site and give them all my personal information. Great time to be alive.

Here's a fun thought experiment.

How much should National Public Data have to pay the people affected by this breach? The article says there are 2.9 billion people impacted. Let's take that at face value and assume that there are no duplicates in there. How much should each person receive? The article also says that USDoD tried to sell the data for only $3.5 million, so they value it at roughly $830/person.

Now, in class actions, not everyone takes the deal. Most people ignore it or never pay attention to the notice. Let's say, very generously, 10% of those affected take the deal. That would be 290 million people. If you gave each of them $100, that would be $29 billion dollars. Do you think National Public Data even has that kind of money? What if we gave everyone just your $3? That's $870 million. I don't think this data broker probably even has that much money.

Your only real hope of getting a sizable payout from this class is either a) NPD is sitting on a mountain of cash or b) a very small percentage of users get paid. Anything else and the money isn't there.

When people say that there need to be criminal, go-to-jail type repercussions for not securing data, this is why. People value their freedom much more than businesses value staying solvent.

Planet Money just did a great episode on how class action lawsuits actually work, from both sides[1].

[1] https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1197961271

Re: 2.9B hit in one of largest data breaches; full names and SSNs exposed

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>As reported by Bloomberg, news of this massive new data breach was revealed as part of a class action lawsuit that was filed at the beginning of this month. I am so looking forward to getting my 2.99 USD check from this suit. Of course I need to apply for that check via an on-line site and give them all my personal information. Great time to be alive.

You don't get a check, you get a gift card for a credit monitoring service that you will never use because all your data leaks all the time already. Motherfuckers asked my wife her SSN when she was getting a store card the other week. Not a credit card, a store card.

What is a store card in that case, and how does it differ from credit card (other than, I assume, the place you apply)?

The store cards I have seen are simply store-branded credit cards.

Re: 2.9B hit in one of largest data breaches; full names and SSNs exposed

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>As reported by Bloomberg, news of this massive new data breach was revealed as part of a class action lawsuit that was filed at the beginning of this month. I am so looking forward to getting my 2.99 USD check from this suit. Of course I need to apply for that check via an on-line site and give them all my personal information. Great time to be alive.

Here's a fun thought experiment. How much should National Public Data have to pay the people affected by this breach? The article says there are 2.9 billion people impacted. Let's take that at face value and assume that there are no duplicates in there. How much should each person receive? The article also says that USDoD tried to sell the data for only $3.5 million, so they value it at roughly $830/person. Now, in c…

> The article also says that USDoD tried to sell the data for only $3.5 million, so they value it at roughly $830/person.

When I divide 3,500,000 USD by 2,900,000,000 people, I get $0.0012/person. How do you get $830/person?

Re: 2.9B hit in one of largest data breaches; full names and SSNs exposed

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When can we move away from SSNs being a pseudo secret? They have obviously been leaked everywhere at this point. Relatedly, is there an up to date guide on how I am supposed to freeze my credit? Last I looked, it required handing over all of my PII, which I found super distasteful, but I should accept none of it is secret and do the minimum to protect myself from ~financial institutions falling for fraud~ identity th…

You freeze your credit by making an account on TransUnion, Experian, and Equifax's websites. It sucks, and they suck, but it's free. Unless you take out loans quite frequently, there's no reason not to do it. My credit has been frozen for years, and I only ever unfreeze it for a month or two at a time when I need to refinance a mortgage or something like that.

Re: 2.9B hit in one of largest data breaches; full names and SSNs exposed

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>As reported by Bloomberg, news of this massive new data breach was revealed as part of a class action lawsuit that was filed at the beginning of this month. I am so looking forward to getting my 2.99 USD check from this suit. Of course I need to apply for that check via an on-line site and give them all my personal information. Great time to be alive.

You don't get a check, you get a gift card for a credit monitoring service that you will never use because all your data leaks all the time already. Motherfuckers asked my wife her SSN when she was getting a store card the other week. Not a credit card, a store card.

Actually, you get one free year of credit monitoring.

After the first year, you'll be asked to pay for monitoring.

Re: 2.9B hit in one of largest data breaches; full names and SSNs exposed

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>As reported by Bloomberg, news of this massive new data breach was revealed as part of a class action lawsuit that was filed at the beginning of this month. I am so looking forward to getting my 2.99 USD check from this suit. Of course I need to apply for that check via an on-line site and give them all my personal information. Great time to be alive.

Here's a fun thought experiment. How much should National Public Data have to pay the people affected by this breach? The article says there are 2.9 billion people impacted. Let's take that at face value and assume that there are no duplicates in there. How much should each person receive? The article also says that USDoD tried to sell the data for only $3.5 million, so they value it at roughly $830/person. Now, in c…

This is exactly why insurance was invented.

Re: 2.9B hit in one of largest data breaches; full names and SSNs exposed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's a fun thought experiment. How much should National Public Data have to pay the people affected by this breach? The article says there are 2.9 billion people impacted. Let's take that at face value and assume that there are no duplicates in there. How much should each person receive? The article also says that USDoD tried to sell the data for only $3.5 million, so they value it at roughly $830/person. Now, in c…

> The article also says that USDoD tried to sell the data for only $3.5 million, so they value it at roughly $830/person. When I divide 3,500,000 USD by 2,900,000,000 people, I get $0.0012/person. How do you get $830/person?

I think it was suppose to be 830 persons / $1.
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