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Launch HN: Firezone (YC W22) – Zero-trust access platform built on WireGuard

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Re: Launch HN: Firezone (YC W22) – Zero-trust access platform built on WireGuard

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post #20

In the spirit of constructive feedback, spend the time and effort to record your product demonstrations in a more professional environment. Or generate a fake background at a minimum.

Appreciate the feedback! Will certainly plan to take the product demos up a notch going forward.

Re: Launch HN: Firezone (YC W22) – Zero-trust access platform built on WireGuard

#22
post #20

In the spirit of constructive feedback, spend the time and effort to record your product demonstrations in a more professional environment. Or generate a fake background at a minimum.

In the spirit of sheepish confession: that is my fault. I always tell founders to make raw, unprofessional videos for their Launch HNs. In fact, here is my standard blurb about it:

"What works well for HN [demo video] is short and direct, with zero production values. Skip any introductions and jump straight into showing your product doing what it does best. It should take only a few seconds before we see it in action, doing something cool. Voiceover is good, but no marketing slickness—no fancy logos or background music or anything like that!"

I can see how maybe this could be counter-grain for some enterprise products.

Re: Launch HN: Firezone (YC W22) – Zero-trust access platform built on WireGuard

#23
Since you're directly competing with Tailscale, you have to compare the websites. The landing pages and documentation are waaay nicer, IMHO.

I see the difference though. Tailscale goes with "secure this and that." It appears to attract people who don't already use a VPN, while you compare it straight to a VPN, which may be more enterprise crowd.

I'm not sure what your exact market is, but for a young startup at the very least, Tailscale marketing and UX appears a lot nicer.

Re: Launch HN: Firezone (YC W22) – Zero-trust access platform built on WireGuard

#24
post #10

I'm a big fan of Tailscale but it's unfortunate that it's proprietary, so it's really nice to see an open source alternative. The commercial pricing also looks very reasonable. Wishing your product much success.

Do you think purchasers within enterprises especially care if it's a proprietary or commercially-supported FOSS offering?

Re: Launch HN: Firezone (YC W22) – Zero-trust access platform built on WireGuard

#26

Not a comment on the actual product but did you use a specific template or stack on the app you show in the demo?

Are you referring to the macOS client app? It's built in Swift with an FFI bridge to the Rust-powered connectivity layer. Source is here: https://github.com/firezone/firezone/tree/main/swift/apple

Re: Launch HN: Firezone (YC W22) – Zero-trust access platform built on WireGuard

#28
post #20

In the spirit of constructive feedback, spend the time and effort to record your product demonstrations in a more professional environment. Or generate a fake background at a minimum.

I'm probably in the minority, but I actually really liked the scrappy, you-can-trust-us-because-I'm-not-wearing-a-tie vibe :D

Re: Launch HN: Firezone (YC W22) – Zero-trust access platform built on WireGuard

#29
post #2

How does this compare with e.g. Tailscale?

There's a chart on the homepage comparing to Tailscale and Twingate.

One difference not listed is MDM support. https://www.firezone.dev/kb/deploy/clients#provision-with-md... just tells you where to find the app but there's no parameters for configuring Firezone via zero-touch.

It's also not clear if Gateways can serve as Exit Nodes for egress clients (like a traditional VPN).

Lastly, Firezone Clients support only DNS over UDP/53 at this time. DNS-over-TLS and DNS-over-HTTPS upstream servers are not supported yet.

Re: Launch HN: Firezone (YC W22) – Zero-trust access platform built on WireGuard

#30
post #24
post #10

I'm a big fan of Tailscale but it's unfortunate that it's proprietary, so it's really nice to see an open source alternative. The commercial pricing also looks very reasonable. Wishing your product much success.

Do you think purchasers within enterprises especially care if it's a proprietary or commercially-supported FOSS offering?

Those with purchasing 'influence' might. Accounts payable? No.
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