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Re: 'Agua, Agua'

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I think it's pretty stupid to challenge yourself in ways that are guaranteed to harm your body in some way, even if the harm is temporary.

I suppose you are welcome to judge people as you please, but essentially everyone who hikes, skis, climbs, kayaks, skates, surfs, runs, or plays any sort of contact sport will disagree with you.

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#22

I think it's pretty stupid to challenge yourself in ways that are guaranteed to harm your body in some way, even if the harm is temporary.

It's part of the human condition I'd say. Drinking causes harm in some way, but most people do it. Sticking to a diet can be harmful in some way, but especially people claiming to be pursuing good health go for them. Sports harms your body in that it causes small injuries that the body has to heal.

Without this stupidity as you call it, we'd be nowhere. Yeah it's stupid to try and hunt a wooly mammoth given they're ten times our size but if our ancestors didn't we wouldn't be here.

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The guy in the story basically survived 6 days without water and traveled up to 160 miles during that time. It's almost unbelievable. I thought that once you loose 4-6 kg of water due to sweat the body does not function any more due to the changed concentration of minerals in the cells.

You risk heart attack even if you are in water only diet (without salts and potassium) for longer periods of time (several weeks).

That basically only happens if you do a water fast with distilled water.

Regular mineral water will avoid that.

Re: 'Agua, Agua'

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The guy in the story basically survived 6 days without water and traveled up to 160 miles during that time. It's almost unbelievable. I thought that once you loose 4-6 kg of water due to sweat the body does not function any more due to the changed concentration of minerals in the cells.

When I read these stories, it's like a reminder of the incredible, albeit rare, resilience of the human body

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You risk heart attack even if you are in water only diet (without salts and potassium) for longer periods of time (several weeks).

That basically only happens if you do a water fast with distilled water. Regular mineral water will avoid that.

Uhmm, No... no it will not. That is dangerously incorrect.

Mineral water may have a small amount of trace minerals, but it has basically zero electrolytes at relevant physiologic concentrations. Functionally, there'd be almost no difference between distilled and mineral water fasting with respect to electrolyte management.

Imbalances in sodium, potassium, magnesium and calcium can get VERY serious very quickly. Mineral water does not really have relevant concentrations of those.

I think you're conflating the idea that distilled water isn't particularly good for you since it starts leaching out the trace minerals from parts of your body, with the entire concept of electrolyte management. These are VERY different things, occurring with VERY different relevant concentrations... like at least 1-2 orders of magnitude.

Re: 'Agua, Agua'

#27

I think it's pretty stupid to challenge yourself in ways that are guaranteed to harm your body in some way, even if the harm is temporary.

I suppose you are welcome to judge people as you please, but essentially everyone who hikes, skis, climbs, kayaks, skates, surfs, runs, or plays any sort of contact sport will disagree with you.

I do a lot of outdoors stuff and there's a huge difference between pushing yourself on a challenging hike and being stupid by not drinking any water.

Re: 'Agua, Agua'

#28
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I think it's pretty stupid to challenge yourself in ways that are guaranteed to harm your body in some way, even if the harm is temporary.

You offer criticism of a spiritual practice you do not understand.

I understand and I still think it's stupid.

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#29
I wonder what would happen if we had a huge truck of fish, then loaded thousand of fish to one of those most dry areas in the world – IE without coyotes – layed out evenly. Would these make good good in few years?

edit: good food

Re: 'Agua, Agua'

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose you are welcome to judge people as you please, but essentially everyone who hikes, skis, climbs, kayaks, skates, surfs, runs, or plays any sort of contact sport will disagree with you.

I do a lot of outdoors stuff and there's a huge difference between pushing yourself on a challenging hike and being stupid by not drinking any water.

Dehydration was not the intent, it was supposed to be just a long desert hike:

> "I thought, I’m pretty tough. I can do that," Broyles says. He planned ahead and buried water caches at strategic points of the journey, which he described in a 1982 article. "Intending to parallel [Valencia’s] route, I had no design to parallel his plight," he wrote. "But the desert doesn’t always honor human plans."

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