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Chinese archaeologists are striking out along the Silk Road

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Re: Chinese archaeologists are striking out along the Silk Road

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Scouring trade route history is a two-edged sword: which way did influence run? I’m sure ideological archeology can solve that though. That path also has a lot of history.

> ideological archeology

A short, memorable, oxymoronic, and yet accurate description of these efforts.

I like the term so much that I'm going to start using "ideological [scientific field]" to refer to similar pseudo-scientific efforts in other fields.

Re: Chinese archaeologists are striking out along the Silk Road

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post #8

Scouring trade route history is a two-edged sword: which way did influence run? I’m sure ideological archeology can solve that though. That path also has a lot of history.

>which way did influence run?

Usually the way of the site of higher riches and more advanced technically, organizationally, etc, to the less one?

Re: Chinese archaeologists are striking out along the Silk Road

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In the world of plant genomics there’s a somewhat interesting trend where teams of Chinese researchers eventually, owing to newly collected specimens in China unavailable to other groups, conclude that that whatever their group works on just so happens to have originated from China.

Re: Chinese archaeologists are striking out along the Silk Road

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

P-hack?

In statistics, the p-value is shorthand for “how unlikely was this result.” Smaller p-values indicate less likely results, which in turn creates evidence of a relationship between variables. Many naive approaches to statically analysis place an almost magical value on the 5% threshold, but that’s not actually a rare event if you run dozens of tests. P-hacking generally refers to running tests and discarding the value…

Technically it’s how unlikely of an event under a null model.

The null model is key: if you are mischievous, you can just define a seemingly benign but incorrect null model and generate extreme p values without discarding: all values will be significant!

Re: Chinese archaeologists are striking out along the Silk Road

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If your goal in research is to p-hack your way to a conclusion, you will always succeed.

I’m wondering how often p-values are even used in papers about archeological digs? It seems like historical arguments are often made without doing statistics at all?

I don't think they're talking about literal p-values, but the more general practice of defining your question in terms of the desired result.
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