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Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Why is capitalism failing us here? Why do we need to grow our own?

Simple: quality tomatoes are hard to transport and they don’t last when on the shelf. The closest thing to a “real” farm tomato you can buy at a reasonable price is “Kumato” from Trader Joe’s. It’s a pale imitation of a real tomato picked off the plant when it’s ripe, but at least it reminds me of it, whereas a “regular” store bought tomato doesn’t taste anything like the real thing.

Letting a tomato go fully ripe on the plant is an easy way to attract birds and lose a substantial amount of the crop. There’s no reason for it either. Once the tomato reaches the breaker stage (starting to change colour) it is internally cut off from the mother plant and will not be adversely affected by being harvested.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Oh my. Everyone who cares about tomatoes grows their own, supermarkets are for the rest. They are not demanding and will grow anywhere there's sun, including in pot on balcony.

I think I want to finally do this. I _can_ find excellent tomatoes around here (France), but they are 27 euro/kg, more than beef.

Buy a cheap flight to south Italy and gorge yourself.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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It's been a long lasting peeve of mine. I Live in London, where you can easily satisfy every kink, even the most exotic fruits and spices are found in every corner of the city. Yet, for the love of me, I cannot find any tasty tomato. Even if money is no issue, it just doesn't seem to exist? A giant void in a huge market? At this point, I'd pay 10x prices without blinking. It's fair that I cannot find them in winter,…

You need sun and local intensive agriculture to grow them well. They taste better the more hot and stressed they are. It's just not something available in the UK?

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Simple: quality tomatoes are hard to transport and they don’t last when on the shelf. The closest thing to a “real” farm tomato you can buy at a reasonable price is “Kumato” from Trader Joe’s. It’s a pale imitation of a real tomato picked off the plant when it’s ripe, but at least it reminds me of it, whereas a “regular” store bought tomato doesn’t taste anything like the real thing.

Letting a tomato go fully ripe on the plant is an easy way to attract birds and lose a substantial amount of the crop. There’s no reason for it either. Once the tomato reaches the breaker stage (starting to change colour) it is internally cut off from the mother plant and will not be adversely affected by being harvested.

If we’re talking the peak flavor tomato that “capitalism” purportedly can’t produce, that is only available when you pick it from the vine, already ripe. It is true that tomatoes will ripen if picked “brown”, but they’re less flavorful than vine ripened. Source: picked a few tons of tomatoes every summer as a kid.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Croatia has horrible food, locals can not afford quality food. This country was overrun by tourists, and is now more expensive than Italy. Recent adoption of Euro was the last nail in a coffin. Go to Greece, if you want "authentic local tomato from street-market".

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Croatia has horrible food, locals can not afford quality food. This country was overrun by tourists, and is now more expensive than Italy. Recent adoption of Euro was the last nail in a coffin. Go to Greece, if you want "authentic local tomato from street-market".

Just had a week on various Croatian islands. It’s true that we were shocked by the cost of the food (€18 for a pizza in a restaurant) although put it down to the cost of importing the various ingredients. I wouldn’t say any of the food was “horrible” though. We had a tremendous “meat plate” of grilled marinated chicken, pork and steak with potatoes.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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Croatia has horrible food, locals can not afford quality food. This country was overrun by tourists, and is now more expensive than Italy. Recent adoption of Euro was the last nail in a coffin. Go to Greece, if you want "authentic local tomato from street-market".

>more expensive than italy

Related: had some friends down from a northern country and they were as amazed at the taste and cost of the tomatoes, as they were at the fact they came from the country my guests came from.

We figured from growth to packing to transportation to purchase, made the tomatoes 'just right' on the day we got them. Not had anything similar since for taste, including those i bought last night.

Re: Tomato nostalgia as I relive my Croatian island childhood

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I am Croatian, and I know exactly what the article is referring to. So much that we decided to grow our own tomatoes this year.

The imported junk we get from Netherlands is abysmal compared to anything grown locally, and the reality is that we want the good stuff for ourselves, not the tourists.

We were very lucky to have a great harvest of cherry, monte carlo, and plum tomatoes this year, all of which serve a different purpose:

- Cherry for salads and side dish

- Monte Carlo for cooking

- Plum tomatoes for everything in between

Croatia has incredible food, especially the local, homegrown stuff, and it is well worth the effort to get it.

Here's an image of some of our crop: https://imgur.com/5FfdvG6

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