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To preserve their work journalists take archiving into their own hands

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Re: To preserve their work journalists take archiving into their own hands

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My understanding is that some photographers are archiving their digital pictures by basically printing them using the 4 color process, which gives them the 4 "negatives" ("postives?" or whatever they're called) for each color (CMYK I guess). Those sheets are archival quality and should last for quite sometime, given a proper storage environment. They can always use those later to have them scanned back in should they…

With cheap 20+Tb drives available, just buy a new drive every couple of years and copy the files forward.

Re: To preserve their work journalists take archiving into their own hands

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Good thing I’m a hoarder. If I like something, I archive it and back it up locally. For example, a couple of days ago, I needed some digital assets for an Adobe program that I had downloaded a few months ago because I liked them and thought I might need them in the future. When I went back to the company page a couple days ago, everything had vanished! I'm glad I had downloaded them before and checked my backup to re…

Many many years ago I read a Fred Wilson (avc.com) blog post about a founder who vented that a tech journalist's article on the founder's company was a hit piece. The tech journalist was recommended by Fred Wilson who was an investor in the founder's company. Fred wrote the tech journalist rarely ever does their own independent research. The article's position must have come from the founder himself.

I can't find that article. And I have looked hard for it. I think now it must have been taken down. And that is sad. It had a valuable lesson that I want to share it with others these days.

Re: To preserve their work journalists take archiving into their own hands

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I fully support the efforts. but are there not legal problems with this? (No I dont thik legal issues should prevent this) If I worked for CorporateMediaNews as a columnist and reporter for 10 years and they decide ot remove all of it. Does not CMN own the work and can (unfortunately) dispose of it if they so wish? I would not have any rights for the work? Thinking about my own career. I have written a hell of a lot…

Journalists are often judged based on their public output. You get bylines on published articles, and you can use those to apply for jobs. There's not much emphasis on secrecy because the goal of a news outlet is to be read by as many people as possible.

Being unable to provide examples of your work is a career-killer if everyone else can point to stuff they wrote. Preserving your work isn't altruistic, it's required.

It's a very different environment compared to programming, because oftentimes the source code is valuable because it's a secret. Employees taking source code is dangerous because competitors can copy it; obviously that's bad for one's career.

The analogy doesn't work here because the cost/benefits of taking legal action are different.

Re: To preserve their work journalists take archiving into their own hands

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are some of those options?

There’s an addon called single file, you can use it to save the whole page with assets (except videos) https://github.com/gildas-lormeau/SingleFile

Is there a to that I can script, to use the cookies on my existing web browser (because I'm logged into some websites) and get the page content text? All while clicking away pop-up banners (newsletter, cookies, etc)?

I would script that to go over my local bookmarks file.

Re: To preserve their work journalists take archiving into their own hands

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> “Thank goodness she did that because [otherwise] we would have no records of the early years of the first Women’s Hockey League in Canada,” Azzi said. A few years ago, Canada digitized many older television shows, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35716982 With the help of many industry partners, the [Canada Media Fund] CMF team unearthed Canadian gems buried in analog catalogues. Once discovered, we worked to s…

Archive.org is such a godsend.-

The entire information 'substrate' of society is ephemeral, if digital, and none (at least not enough) seem to have noticed.-

Re: To preserve their work journalists take archiving into their own hands

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Too bad there's not something like DOI or ARK [0] available for anyone to use to give documents a searchable, permanent ID so that a location can be maintained. IME, the half-life of many URLs (5-10 years?) makes them unreliable. I recently was unable to find (by URL) an entire historical collection at a major southern US university until I discovered that it had been moved to a new server. [0] https://arks.org/about…

> the half-life of many URLs (5-10 years?) makes them unreliable.

"Simple" enough experiment, on this very site: Use the "past" feature on the main menu to go back a step at a time, and tally the number of broken links from the external submissions the further you go back.-

The amount of dead projects, expired domains, broken links, 404s, etc. is sad.-

Re: To preserve their work journalists take archiving into their own hands

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I fully support the efforts. but are there not legal problems with this? (No I dont thik legal issues should prevent this) If I worked for CorporateMediaNews as a columnist and reporter for 10 years and they decide ot remove all of it. Does not CMN own the work and can (unfortunately) dispose of it if they so wish? I would not have any rights for the work? Thinking about my own career. I have written a hell of a lot…

Does that (not too often) not happen with "abandonware" turned open source?

Re: To preserve their work journalists take archiving into their own hands

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My understanding is that some photographers are archiving their digital pictures by basically printing them using the 4 color process, which gives them the 4 "negatives" ("postives?" or whatever they're called) for each color (CMYK I guess). Those sheets are archival quality and should last for quite sometime, given a proper storage environment. They can always use those later to have them scanned back in should they…

With cheap 20+Tb drives available, just buy a new drive every couple of years and copy the files forward.

PAR archives FTW :)

Re: To preserve their work journalists take archiving into their own hands

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A nice social attack is to create an internet archive looking website call it archive.newtld and use it to create social proof of things you didn't actually do. "Oh yeah the Washington Post did a redesign but here are my past 10 posts which I saved in archive: link"

In post truth internet, proving archives is going to be tough and unless there's some other form of verification it's going to be useless fast for "proving" purposes.

You can think bigger and do this to forge stories about anything you want in any website. Nobody checks authenticity of archive urls and there's several sites already, plus a lot of these services do URL re-writing, so it's hard unless there's some authorative thing.

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