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Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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Re: Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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Office features haven't increased in value since Office 2000. It's been 99% bugfixes, 1% feature evolution since then.

30% devolution

they even broke the Save dialog in an attempt to push their onedrive garbage

what used to take 1 click now takes 3-4

Re: Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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post #14

Office features haven't increased in value since Office 2000. It's been 99% bugfixes, 1% feature evolution since then.

The ribbon actually was a good idea (~2003 I think)

I feel like the ribbon is one of Microsoft's most universally reviled design choices, next to Metro UI.

Re: Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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post #21

Office features haven't increased in value since Office 2000. It's been 99% bugfixes, 1% feature evolution since then.

30% devolution they even broke the Save dialog in an attempt to push their onedrive garbage what used to take 1 click now takes 3-4

I still haven’t figured out how to export a copy of an excel sheet to csv without that csv becoming the document I have open afterward, and having to close it and reopen the xlsx file.

(note: desktop Excel 2016)

There's an "Export" section in the awkward full-window UI that they replaced the File menu with, but instead of exporting it's just another way around to add extra clicks (File -> Export -> Change File Type -> CSV -> Save As) and get to the same "Save As" dialog that makes the CSV file take over your window as the active file after you "export" it.

You can also get to that via Save As -> Browse and pick CSV in the "save as type" dropdown, which behaves how you expect Save As to work (where that copy should stay active in the window afterward, as opposed to Export where it shouldn't). But this spot is also stupid because now have to go File -> Save As -> Browse because somebody at Microsoft wanted to insert an extra page where they could default your location to OneDrive and make you click Browse to get a normal file browser.

I saw an article yesterday about how Microsoft is moving toward "user-centric design" and removing ads from Skype, but how about doing that in the products anybody gives a shit about?

Re: Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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post #23
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ribbon actually was a good idea (~2003 I think)

I feel like the ribbon is one of Microsoft's most universally reviled design choices, next to Metro UI.

As an office 2003 power user (God, has it been so long!) the 2007 office ribbon was awful.

Re: Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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Whattttttt? Impossible. Surely the AI must have been adding value. A big company wouldn't just look to shove AI into something because it's trendy and fool themselves into thinking that customers would pay them for it, would they? Also, why are we linking to some forum and not the articles?

Given what people are fantasizing what “AI” can do, it's not surprising MS thought their users must be ecstatic about this. Besides, MS always knows better what their users want than the users themselves.

Re: Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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I really want 365 or gemini to do the obvious thing: "Using this template, summarize this document into a slide deck." Maybe it won't be good, but it's surprising to me it can't do it barebones. Considering LLMs do an okay at summarizing into markdown, maybe the issue is a lack of proper intermediate DSL to represent slides it can train on? But autogenerating at least a scaffolding for a deck seems so obvious, it's p…

All my documents - Word, PowerPoint, OneNote, Excel - are all on OneDrive. Give me an NLP interface to query information from these sources. When providing the information, note the source where it came from. That's what I want!

Give me good sharepoint search!!

I'd love the R part of RAG, but Microsoft can't even do that it appears?

Re: Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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post #15

I really want 365 or gemini to do the obvious thing: "Using this template, summarize this document into a slide deck." Maybe it won't be good, but it's surprising to me it can't do it barebones. Considering LLMs do an okay at summarizing into markdown, maybe the issue is a lack of proper intermediate DSL to represent slides it can train on? But autogenerating at least a scaffolding for a deck seems so obvious, it's p…

We have information and we need to organize it so it can be presented so leadership can make a decision.

We now have so much information that the effort needed to take this step is so obnoxious that need an abstract organization system to exist on top of it.

I wonder if the scaling properties here just serve to highlight the deeper organizational problem that we still haven't solved properly yet.

Re: Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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Office features haven't increased in value since Office 2000. It's been 99% bugfixes, 1% feature evolution since then.

Maybe not in Word but Excel is a completely different beast these days.

PowerQuery and the Data Model have more in common with python than the Excel of old

Re: Pharma CIO cancels AI enhanced Office 365 deal as "it doesn't add value"

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post #15

I really want 365 or gemini to do the obvious thing: "Using this template, summarize this document into a slide deck." Maybe it won't be good, but it's surprising to me it can't do it barebones. Considering LLMs do an okay at summarizing into markdown, maybe the issue is a lack of proper intermediate DSL to represent slides it can train on? But autogenerating at least a scaffolding for a deck seems so obvious, it's p…

Many years ago, someone remarked in a meeting it was too bad we (Microsoft) couldn't ship these PowerPoints.

Yet, here we are.

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