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Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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How many upgrades does average consumer make on their MacBook Pro? I'd argue it's ~0.

I know lots of folks who've added RAM and who've swapped out the spinning drive for an SSD. Maybe it's more of a "power user" thing, but here you are on Hacker News.

Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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Blogspam. Article is just a summary of http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook-Pro-with-Retina-Displ...

But maybe the blogspam had a stronger server; the link being used now (the same you provided) is down and Google Cache doesn't seem to have it.

Link to blogspam: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/06/retina-macbook-pro-full...

Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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What do they mean 'virtually non-upgradable'? It's actually non-upgradable! Annoying that I can't upgrade the RAM though, that's the only part I've changed in recent years - because it's so much cheaper DIY.

Because it is upgradable. You just have to have the expertise to do it. Soldering a SMD component, while not exactly something that everyone can do, is indeed doable.

Disclaimer: I can solder some SMD chips...

Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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Ten years ago, a computer's useful lifetime was measured in months. Hardware specs were advancing so quickly that a two-year-old computer might not be capable of running newly-released software. RAM, disk, and even CPU upgrades were necessary to keep up to date. Except for gamers, this is no longer true. Computers without user-replaceable parts are a natural outcome of the fact that users no longer need to replace pa…

Funny, I got ten years out of a Mac SE/30, four years out of a PowerBook G4 (Lombard), and five years out of a white iBook G4. I also used a Mac IIcx for almost a year, ten years after its release. My unibody MacBook 13" was on track too, until I beered it.

I do not agree.

Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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Ten years ago, a computer's useful lifetime was measured in months. Hardware specs were advancing so quickly that a two-year-old computer might not be capable of running newly-released software. RAM, disk, and even CPU upgrades were necessary to keep up to date. Except for gamers, this is no longer true. Computers without user-replaceable parts are a natural outcome of the fact that users no longer need to replace pa…

What does suck about this from the consumer standpoint though is now when ordering if you want to upgrade a component from the base model you pay Apple prices to do so. For example Apple has historically overcharged for RAM and hard drive upgrades, so many users would order the base and then install upgrades on their own to save a bunch of money. Now you pay what Apple says you pay.

Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your answer to "Apple doesn't make a decent desktop computer" is "hack OS X's DRM to install it on unlocked hardware"?

There is no DRM on OS X. The only issue with Hackintoshes is drivers and hardware support.

And terms of service

Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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I can't get too worked up by user serviceablility, or lack thereof. "My SSD died the other day. I tried to open it up and replace one of the flash chips, but they deliberately made it impossible for me to service. I had to buy an entire new drive!"

Isn't it obvious that your example is different than "My $3000 MacBook Pro's SSD died the other day. I tried to open it up and replace the SSD, but they deliberately made it impossible for me to service. I had to buy an entire new computer!" Sure, you can pull out a microscope and complain about how you can't fix your SMD components, but the vast majority of consumer (Apple, even!) laptops have previously been very e…

Laptops have a checkered history in this regard: the only thing which was consistently easy in Apple laptops was the memory. Drives ranged from trivial to involved depending on the model - I have the torx drivers to prove it.

Except for the early WiFi era's AirPort cards, that's been it - and there's something like an order of magnitude step decrease for each one in my experience. A few people upgrade RAM and even fewer change the drive; everyone appreciates better battery life and lighter systems.

Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There will be, but, even if there wasn't, a Hackintosh might be an option for a professional-grade desktop.

Your answer to "Apple doesn't make a decent desktop computer" is "hack OS X's DRM to install it on unlocked hardware"?

As opposed to moving to Windows? Not really an option.
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