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Is Cultivated Meat for Real?

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Re: Is Cultivated Meat for Real?

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Post by dotancohen »

Beijinger wrote: post #7
reify wrote: post #3

I sincerely hope not. I have incisor teeth passed down to me from generation upon generation of my previous kin all the way back to my stoneage ancestors. Incisors are specifically designed for tearing and ripping meat. I eat real meat!

"I eat real meat!" Cultivated meat IS real meat from meat cells, it is not a meat imitation based on soy, wheat or whatever. Potentially much safer. Think of dead zombie disease or suspected cancer risk of beef. https://www.gesundheitsindustrie-bw.de/en/article/news/new-p... https://publichealth.gmu.edu/news/2024-03/should-you-be-worr... Why do animals have to suffer for our meat supply? “As long as there are slaught…

Proverbs that rely on word play are fun, but not profound.

Re: Is Cultivated Meat for Real?

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Post by ben_w »

reify wrote: post #3

I sincerely hope not. I have incisor teeth passed down to me from generation upon generation of my previous kin all the way back to my stoneage ancestors. Incisors are specifically designed for tearing and ripping meat. I eat real meat!

I've had five teeth removed because my mouth is too small.

Kept one and turned it into a necklace.

Re: Is Cultivated Meat for Real?

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Post by a-french-anon »

Larrikin wrote: post #9
reify wrote: post #3

I sincerely hope not. I have incisor teeth passed down to me from generation upon generation of my previous kin all the way back to my stoneage ancestors. Incisors are specifically designed for tearing and ripping meat. I eat real meat!

Cool. The strongest argument for a boring diet is your teeth.

"Boring"? Small lapsus, maybe? I mean, I know veganism is quite fashionable in some circles, but still.

Re: Is Cultivated Meat for Real?

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Post by bell-cot »

kjellsbells wrote: post #16

The idea of cultured meat sounds wonderful. Its real meat, but without the guilt. But there is the cold reality of enshittification and the numerous sketchy practices of the industrial food industry. So one has to make a choice: the traditional "Iowa" meat industrial complex or the new "valley bro" meat industrial one? For now at least I feel safer with the former.

> But there is the cold reality...

THIS. Plus, so far, it's looking like both the dollar cost and total carbon footprint of a pound of cultured beef are far higher than what is easily accomplished with sustainable old-fashioned cattle farming.

And if the real (vs. VC-subsidized-'till-bankrupt) costs of cultured meat stay extremely high - then it's just another ultra-luxury good for the 0.01%. With an added dose of "reassure yourself that the 99% are moral degenerates, who deserve whatever you do to them".

Re: Is Cultivated Meat for Real?

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Post by a-french-anon »

FerretFred wrote: post #5

If economy of scale is a problem, I look forward to seeing home-tanks that sit on the counter top like slow cookers and produce the meat-alike overnight. Go to the store and buy bags of concentrate just like any other grocery ingredient.

We could call it soylent red, maybe?

Re: Is Cultivated Meat for Real?

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Post by Galicarnax »

reify wrote: post #3

I sincerely hope not. I have incisor teeth passed down to me from generation upon generation of my previous kin all the way back to my stoneage ancestors. Incisors are specifically designed for tearing and ripping meat. I eat real meat!

Tell that to gorillas.

Re: Is Cultivated Meat for Real?

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Post by luguenth »

debacle wrote: post #20
deepvibrations wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But when 95% of animal products are factory farmed globally, the processes already take away from the nutrition and heavily harm the environment. Surely reducing the harm to the environment and animals is worth it...Not to mention the horrible conditions for the people who's job it is to kill animals all day in abattoirs?!

Where do you think the nutrients for cultivated meat are going to come from? Where do you think the byproducts are going to go? Sustainably raised meat is the most environmentally friendly way to feed people.

The most environmentally friendly is to not eat meat.

Re: Is Cultivated Meat for Real?

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Post by CuriouslyC »

Beijinger wrote: post #7
reify wrote: post #3

I sincerely hope not. I have incisor teeth passed down to me from generation upon generation of my previous kin all the way back to my stoneage ancestors. Incisors are specifically designed for tearing and ripping meat. I eat real meat!

"I eat real meat!" Cultivated meat IS real meat from meat cells, it is not a meat imitation based on soy, wheat or whatever. Potentially much safer. Think of dead zombie disease or suspected cancer risk of beef. https://www.gesundheitsindustrie-bw.de/en/article/news/new-p... https://publichealth.gmu.edu/news/2024-03/should-you-be-worr... Why do animals have to suffer for our meat supply? “As long as there are slaught…

Animals are part of this thing called the cycle of life that has been going on since near the beginning of the earth and will go on long after humanity has faded to dust. Being eaten is normal, it's part of how ecosystems are regulated, and everything dies anyhow so why not be a meal on the way out so that something else can live.

If you want to direct your rage somewhere, direct it at the people who force these animals into concentration camp like environments to maximize production. That's the true evil, not eating meat.

Re: Is Cultivated Meat for Real?

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Post by aziaziazi »

debacle wrote: post #15

Cultured meat is the ultimate processed food. It is to meat what a pop tart is to bread and fruit.

How is it more processed than cultured fungi cells, yeast, cheese…?

A better comparaison IMO would be a seedless/peelless GMO fruit compared to the original stuff that can survive in the wild.

Re: Is Cultivated Meat for Real?

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Post by CuriouslyC »

Larrikin wrote: post #9
reify wrote: post #3

I sincerely hope not. I have incisor teeth passed down to me from generation upon generation of my previous kin all the way back to my stoneage ancestors. Incisors are specifically designed for tearing and ripping meat. I eat real meat!

Cool. The strongest argument for a boring diet is your teeth.

Yeah, the people who have a more diverse diet are the ones with a "boring" diet. Interesting logic there friend.
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