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Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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post #18

FDA approves all sorts of software as a medical device that it doesn't rigorously test or understand. Completely serious - I bet Tetris could be approved by the FDA for ADHD treatment if The Tetris Company were willing to put in the effort for all the paperwork and fees.

Tetris has been used to reduce PTSD:

“Can playing Tetris help prevent PTSD if you’ve witnessed something traumatic?”

https://theconversation.com/can-playing-tetris-help-prevent-...

Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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post #18

FDA approves all sorts of software as a medical device that it doesn't rigorously test or understand. Completely serious - I bet Tetris could be approved by the FDA for ADHD treatment if The Tetris Company were willing to put in the effort for all the paperwork and fees.

equally seriously, if you ran proper scientific studies showing actual improvements with tetris because it's a very rules oriented game, vs something more abstract, like Stardew valley, isn't that actually a treatment?

Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh Maybe reading a good physical book for the same time would work as well??

If you do find a book which manages to totally captivate you, then you’d just rather read that instead of returning to normal life. Not sure if this really counts as helping ADHD

The key is to find a hard, less captivating book and just power your way through it. Crime and Punishment may be this for some. You could also try learning X11 programming with the famous wall-o'-manuals that entails.

Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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post #10

I've been on this for about a month and a half now. The game itself isn't engaging at all. It was a struggle to get myself to actually play the game regularly, for the allotted time (30 minutes, 5 days a week). It feels like a pretty big flaw with the game - after all, one of the challenges that people with ADHD face is forcing themselves to do things they don't want to do. This game is a complete bore, and I can't i…

My initial reaction is that it looks like a Super Mario Galaxy ripoff.

That looks like an extremely generous take

Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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post #23
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you do find a book which manages to totally captivate you, then you’d just rather read that instead of returning to normal life. Not sure if this really counts as helping ADHD

The key is to find a hard, less captivating book and just power your way through it. Crime and Punishment may be this for some. You could also try learning X11 programming with the famous wall-o'-manuals that entails.

My productive habit is that every morning I wake up, eat a healthy breakfast, and pop a couple Atomoxetine

Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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I'm extremely skeptical. I've yet to see a treatment for ADHD that is only effective on children 8-17. If their product actually worked, I'm sure they wouldn't want to exclude the massive market of adults with ADHD.

I'm also opposed to any medical device that uses a cell phone or requires a download from an app store. At that point you're handing over at least some amount of medical information to an ad company, using a device that's entirely controlled by that same ad company, who would be all to happy to use that information against you.

That said, Their privacy policy isn't too terrible. They do sell your data to third parties for advertising (including cross-context behavioral advertising) and they're handing data over to "service providers", some of which are also ad companies. A lot of their data collection does seem to be opt-in at the moment which is nice. They say that they "seek to link only to [social media] sites that share our high standards and respect for privacy", but because they link to facebook it makes their "standards and respect for privacy" seem very questionable.

Video games in general are already known to help people with ADHD focus, the problem is that while it can greatly improve the ability to focus on the game while it's being played the effect doesn't seem to hold up for very long after the game is turned off. I suspect that the very slight improvements their own research shows could be gained by playing many other games.

Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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Stimulant medication for ADHD has the highest effect size in all of psychiatry. ADHD is highly treatable, when people are properly treated. This just feels like something that somebody made for the parents who are pathologically drug averse at the expense of their children. Of course, the parents don’t realize that their kids don’t get that development time back, so the longer they wait, the harder things can get for their kids.

Re: Doctor-prescribed videogame for ADHD

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post #10

I've been on this for about a month and a half now. The game itself isn't engaging at all. It was a struggle to get myself to actually play the game regularly, for the allotted time (30 minutes, 5 days a week). It feels like a pretty big flaw with the game - after all, one of the challenges that people with ADHD face is forcing themselves to do things they don't want to do. This game is a complete bore, and I can't i…

> This game is a complete bore, and I can't imagine anyone over, idk, 10 feeling differently.

FWIW, from their FAQ (and several other places on the site):

> EndeavorRx is indicated only for children ages 8-12 years old with primarily inattentive or combined-type ADHD who have a demonstrated attention issue.

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