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Tau: Open-source PaaS – A self-hosted Vercel / Netlify / Cloudflare alternative

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Re: Tau: Open-source PaaS – A self-hosted Vercel / Netlify / Cloudflare alternative

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I've been out of web dev for a few years, but my understanding of the appeal of serverless is that it is theoretically pay only for what you use. But if you're hosting Tau to do serverless via Tau, well, it's not really serverless anymore. You are now definitely paying for the server running the serverless infra.

Why would anyone target Tau serverless, then? What am I missing?

Re: Tau: Open-source PaaS – A self-hosted Vercel / Netlify / Cloudflare alternative

#22

What's with the vilification of kubernetes? 99% of this document ( https://tau.how/99-Misc/kubernetes/01-k8s-cons/ ) boils down to "You have to understand what a pod, deployment, container, etc is" once you remove every line that discusses the cons of managing a cluster yourself, because nobody actually does that except extremely large orgs. All of these problems go away when you utilize a managed offering like DOKS,…

> What's with the vilification of kubernetes?

because a well-configured k8s cluster nullifies the need for this project. also hi!

Re: Tau: Open-source PaaS – A self-hosted Vercel / Netlify / Cloudflare alternative

#23
Self-hosted platform as a service?!

Isn't the whole point of platforms as a service (from the customer perspective) that you don't need to do the hassle of self hosting.

There are pros and cons to using an external service and to self hosting. And just throwing all these words at me together makes me feel like there isn't a coherent mental model of what this is trying to be, or if there is it isn't clearly communicated.

If this is some sort of CDN software or attempt at running Lambda-like code Snippets on your own distributed cluster that's cool. But a description of that would be nice.

The GitHub read me jump straight into how this is just a single binary and how deploying it is easy, but not what the hell it is. CloudFlare can do like a million things, which features from cloudflare is this competing with? I just really want to know what the pros and cons of this are compared to other ways of rolling my own servers or renting out someone else's platform?

Re: Tau: Open-source PaaS – A self-hosted Vercel / Netlify / Cloudflare alternative

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post #22

What's with the vilification of kubernetes? 99% of this document ( https://tau.how/99-Misc/kubernetes/01-k8s-cons/ ) boils down to "You have to understand what a pod, deployment, container, etc is" once you remove every line that discusses the cons of managing a cluster yourself, because nobody actually does that except extremely large orgs. All of these problems go away when you utilize a managed offering like DOKS,…

> What's with the vilification of kubernetes? because a well-configured k8s cluster nullifies the need for this project. also hi!

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Re: Tau: Open-source PaaS – A self-hosted Vercel / Netlify / Cloudflare alternative

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post #23

Self-hosted platform as a service?! Isn't the whole point of platforms as a service (from the customer perspective) that you don't need to do the hassle of self hosting. There are pros and cons to using an external service and to self hosting. And just throwing all these words at me together makes me feel like there isn't a coherent mental model of what this is trying to be, or if there is it isn't clearly communicat…

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Re: Tau: Open-source PaaS – A self-hosted Vercel / Netlify / Cloudflare alternative

#26

I've been out of web dev for a few years, but my understanding of the appeal of serverless is that it is theoretically pay only for what you use. But if you're hosting Tau to do serverless via Tau, well, it's not really serverless anymore. You are now definitely paying for the server running the serverless infra. Why would anyone target Tau serverless, then? What am I missing?

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Re: Tau: Open-source PaaS – A self-hosted Vercel / Netlify / Cloudflare alternative

#27

I've been out of web dev for a few years, but my understanding of the appeal of serverless is that it is theoretically pay only for what you use. But if you're hosting Tau to do serverless via Tau, well, it's not really serverless anymore. You are now definitely paying for the server running the serverless infra. Why would anyone target Tau serverless, then? What am I missing?

That’s not the only appeal of serverless. In fact it’s not even really true - I pay Vercel a flat rate every month whether I’m heavily using it or not.

The appeal of serverless for me is simplicity. It abstracts the server away. Less to think about, more brain capacity focused on unique business logic.

Re: Tau: Open-source PaaS – A self-hosted Vercel / Netlify / Cloudflare alternative

#28
Looks compelling, but the docs are extremely vague and full of fluff. The "Why One Binary" is hilariously bad. Almost feels like content to impress managers/recruiters.

https://tau.how/02-concepts/03-one-binary/#the-genesis-of-ta...

Re: Tau: Open-source PaaS – A self-hosted Vercel / Netlify / Cloudflare alternative

#30
post #23

Self-hosted platform as a service?! Isn't the whole point of platforms as a service (from the customer perspective) that you don't need to do the hassle of self hosting. There are pros and cons to using an external service and to self hosting. And just throwing all these words at me together makes me feel like there isn't a coherent mental model of what this is trying to be, or if there is it isn't clearly communicat…

"Self-hostable as a service" is a common pattern because it provides the benefits of as-a-service without the threat of vendor lock-in. Plus you can run the same software in temporary or test environments.
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