Copied Act would make removing AI digital watermarks illegal • Hacker News Board

Re: Copied Act would make removing AI digital watermarks illegal

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Post by gaganyaan » Fri, Jul 12, 2024, 3:58 AM UTC

twojacobtwo wrote: post #7

puppycodes wrote: post #3

Absolutely terrible idea. The idea that making a copy of art is somehow theft has lead to nothing but bad outcomes, artificial scarcity, and whining from wealthy institutions complaining about their imagined profits. Intellectual property is one of the most distasteful oxymorons of our age.

Not all artists want their art taken and distributed or modified endlessly. Regardless, I think it seems important to create a system for tracking attestation of AI produced materials, especially with regard to disinformation campaigns. This may not be the sole/express purpose of the legislation, but we will need systems of attribution in the future to determine what's human made and what's not.

Then keep it private, and nobody else can do anything with it. Otherwise too bad

Re: Copied Act would make removing AI digital watermarks illegal

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Post by drewcoo » Fri, Jul 12, 2024, 4:30 AM UTC

Uehreka wrote: post #8

eointierney wrote: post #2

Provable how? What's an AI watermark? What's a work of art? How inundated by works containing supposedly unique digital signatures nonetheless susceptible to collision attacks do they wish to suffer? The Law cannot match Mathematics in formulation, nor can it match it in meaning. I wish mathematicians spent more time educating legislators so the rest of us can think and communicate in peace and clarity.

> What's a work of art? According to the Wikipedia Article on Copyright Law in the United States: > The United States copyright law protects "original works of authorship" fixed in a tangible medium, including literary, dramatic, musical, artistic, and other intellectual works. This protection is available to both published and unpublished works. Copyright law includes the following types of works: Literary, Musical,…

Can someone be prosecuted for ripping book club sections out of the backs of books before giving the books away? Asking "for a friend."

I really feel I'm doing a service to the people receiving the books and anyone they hand the books off to . . .

Re: Copied Act would make removing AI digital watermarks illegal

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Post by ilikehurdles » Fri, Jul 12, 2024, 4:34 PM UTC

voltaireodactyl wrote: post #17

ilikehurdles wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t want my mind polluted by content derived from people who want the power to restrict what i do with that art

FWIW I don’t want my mind actively polluted by the media and materials derived by people who consider art “content” and all human output “training data” to support their own misguided gambles in the hopes of saving their personal portfolios from self-imposed disaster. And yet here we are. So. I hear you.

The point is, people shouldn't have the right to shove something in front of you that might inspire you to iterate, remix, or derive from that, while penalizing you if you act on those ideas. Intellectual property is mind-policing. Its success hinges entirely on it being allowed to invade public space without the public's consent, while using the state to forbid its own free distribution by the public.

No one can opt-out of copyrighted content, and if they could, copyrighted works would become the slim minority of all content, or cease to exist entirely.