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A New Age of Materials Is Dawning, for Everything from Smartphones to Missiles

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Re: A New Age of Materials Is Dawning, for Everything from Smartphones to Missiles

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Not a single mention in the article of their biggest downside, environmental costs.

I would have been interested in the recycling aspect of these materials. We already struggle with plastic and PFAS, should this not be discussed before there's another problem?

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> While composites might seem like a futuristic technology, in many ways, they hark back to millions of years of human and even pre-human material technology. Wood, after all, is the original composite material, as it’s composed of long and short fibers glued together by other substances—much like modern synthetic composites are often made up of carbon fiber held together by epoxy resins. Wood was a chief enabler of…

I disagree. In advanced materials, we analyze materials categorically. In this instance, the way we would calculate the structure of wood is based on its isotropy, or more simply, its symmetry of strength and stiffness. The way wood behaves anisotropically means its structure is calculated the same way as most other composites. Composite Laminate Theory is the primary way that structure behavior is calculated for both wood laminates and carbon fiber laminates. We squarely categorize it in the same bin as carbon fiber, but that's just one perspective from one discipline, so take it as you will.

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>Trees have to be big, strong, lightweight, and bendable. Homogeneous materials won't work for that application. Why wouldn't titanium work for that application? (Assume that somehow the plant can move nutrients and fluids around some other way.) Or even steel, as long as it's not solid? Obviously, nature can't produce hollow steel tubes, but lots of metals satisfy your requirement list here.

Trees did not evolve with bountiful access to titanium, but it would be interesting to ponder how they would have evolved on a metal planet

>but it would be interesting to ponder how they would have evolved on a metal planet

It overlaps a whole lot with the concept of a dyson trees, but the core problem is that it needs to be able to use the metal in the first place - earth is a metal planet, in the sense that ~10% of the planet is iron, and yet our trees are not steel.

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> Not to nitpick too much, but while wood is "technically" a composite material made up of fiber embedded in lignin, I don't think it's very useful to include it under the broad category of composite materials. Engineered woods like plywood and cross-laminated timber definitely are, but it's more useful to classify regular wood as an organic raw material rather than a composite. Why would defining it as a raw materia…

Yea from a material science perspective, wood seems to obviously be a composite.

Not just that. When learning about the anisotropic nature of composites (different strengths in different directions) wood is a tangible example for anyone who’s done arts and crafts, woodworking, etc.

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Nitpick time:

> Modern composites, starting with Bakelite

AFAIK Bakelite is a resin, not a composite.

No mention of fiberglass, which had been used for many decades before carbon fiber went into widespread use.

> composites—which are amalgamations of a variety of fibers, embedded in a variety of plastics

Steel reinforced concrete is a composite and doesn’t fit this definition.

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> All of that is possible because composites, while they have their challenges, are often able to perform just as well as high-strength metal parts, but with a fraction of the weight. That's what Rush (who perished in the Titan submersible) also thought....

To give the steel industry it's fair shake, the Titanic was also claimed to be "unsinkable".

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> While composites might seem like a futuristic technology, in many ways, they hark back to millions of years of human and even pre-human material technology. Wood, after all, is the original composite material, as it’s composed of long and short fibers glued together by other substances—much like modern synthetic composites are often made up of carbon fiber held together by epoxy resins. Wood was a chief enabler of…

I don't know how I escaped learning about silcrete so far, being interested in both geology and primitive technology. Thanks for the tip! For anyone that curious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silcrete
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