I really wanted to use this tool because I love Vim, but it just feels 'off' to me. I'm not sure why, though. In a spreadsheet, I'm used to being able to move around with arrow keys and start typing immediately. Using SCIM, it feels like I'm constantly hitting a wall. Despite that, I think the idea of a spreadsheet as a TUI is really great.
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#22Pretty cool! It's kinda amusing that we've gone from TUI (VisiCalc/Lotus 1-2-3) to GUI (Excel), and back to TUI though.
cursor-addressing uis likely have a higher barrier to entry (both for developers and users), so they are not suffering from the regression to the mean that has made modern guis absolutely unusable. that, and there aren't any "ui/ux designers" specialising in cursor-addressing uis.
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#23I really wanted to use this tool because I love Vim, but it just feels 'off' to me. I'm not sure why, though. In a spreadsheet, I'm used to being able to move around with arrow keys and start typing immediately. Using SCIM, it feels like I'm constantly hitting a wall. Despite that, I think the idea of a spreadsheet as a TUI is really great.
What could be a more Vim-like experience than feeling like you're constantly hitting a wall when first learning? :)
It would be fine if I'm in insert/edit mode and I can move around entering values in several cells and then press escape to exit that mode.
The reason I think TUIs are attractive to use is because they're more efficient to use. But this one doesn't feel more efficient to use than its GUI counterparts.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
cursor-addressing uis likely have a higher barrier to entry (both for developers and users), so they are not suffering from the regression to the mean that has made modern guis absolutely unusable. that, and there aren't any "ui/ux designers" specialising in cursor-addressing uis.
What do you mean precisely by "character addressing UI"? I can infer approximately what you mean, but I had never heard that phrase before and could not Google it, so was wondering how precisely you define that as presumably slightly distinct from other more common terms for text mode applications.
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#25I really wanted to use this tool because I love Vim, but it just feels 'off' to me. I'm not sure why, though. In a spreadsheet, I'm used to being able to move around with arrow keys and start typing immediately. Using SCIM, it feels like I'm constantly hitting a wall. Despite that, I think the idea of a spreadsheet as a TUI is really great.
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#26This has been posted several times on HN, but besides being awesome, this project should be better funded. Please read the README on Github and sponsor it on patreon.
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#27Plain and simple C, etc. I would have liked a one compilation unit with proper preprocessor namespaces/name mangling, that to be picky.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
For me spreadsheets are most useful when shared. My biggest objection - can I share with e.g. google sheets or office 365? I think it's neat for terminal usage, though. Other problem: I can vim but I prefer the emacs keybindings.
You can share with git. But obviously this is no real replacement for cloud based multi user spread sheet software. To be honest I also think that if you are making heavy use of cloud based spread sheet software you have a 100% chance of being a drain on your organization and society as a whole, so I can't really count those missing features as a big downside.
How about for just personal (family/friends) usage?
I would tend to agree spreadsheets are a crutch in larger orgs, however they're best deployed as a prototype tool IMO.
There's plenty of room for > 1 and < 5 (write-access) person operations where cloud based xlsx sharing just makes far more sense than some expensive/excessive enterprise tools.