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Re: Framework laptop delay in switching GPUs

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greatgib wrote: post #11
saturn8601 wrote: post #4

He is in a pickle. He could solve his problems by using a Mac. Designed from the ground up in a uniform fashion instead of bolted on components from different vendors. Excellent sleep/wake support, none of this nonsense of switching graphics cards....but he is a game developer and so he is married to this platform called PC/Windows that is composed of competing interests, none of which care about the total user exper…

Mac also has its issues just you are so used to it that you don't realize it anymore. Like for me the Mac will sometimes randomly turn on from sleep like in the middle of the night. For updates or things like that. When you have wireless mouse but probably any kind of mouse, just a slight move of it will wake the laptop from sleep. When you have the fingerprint sensor equiped power button, the thing constantly mix up…

After a decade of using Linux (to the point of compiling my own kernel since I am a CS guy) and using Windows since I was 6, I would gladly take the Mac any day of the week.

>Like for me the Mac will sometimes randomly turn on from sleep like in the middle of the night. For updates or things like that.

I'm sorry this happened to you. I only ever saw this on Windows. In fact (I probably shouldn't say this) but it lets me defer updates far longer than on Windows. I think the longest I have gone is a year+? They are the least intrusive updates ever.

>When you have wireless mouse but probably any kind of mouse, just a slight move of it will wake the laptop from sleep.

This does not happen on Windows or Linux? I have definitely seen it on Windows.

>When you have the fingerprint sensor equiped power button, the thing constantly mix up going to sleep because you push it but also waking up immediately because it sensed your finger print on top of the button. ...

I think this is more on you as that feature is a blast to use for login purposes. On newer macs, the machine starts when you open the lid so maybe its been resolved on newer macs?

Re: Framework laptop delay in switching GPUs

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Post by saturn8601 »

type0 wrote: post #16
greatgib wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mac also has its issues just you are so used to it that you don't realize it anymore. Like for me the Mac will sometimes randomly turn on from sleep like in the middle of the night. For updates or things like that. When you have wireless mouse but probably any kind of mouse, just a slight move of it will wake the laptop from sleep. When you have the fingerprint sensor equiped power button, the thing constantly mix up…

> Like for me the Mac will sometimes randomly turn on from sleep like in the middle of the night. For updates or things like that. that's because you don't own your operating system, it's Apples software and they'll do whatever they please with your harware

And with Linux you don't own your time. Pick your poison.

Re: Framework laptop delay in switching GPUs

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Post by saturn8601 »

OKRainbowKid wrote: post #17
saturn8601 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He is using the top of the line hardware because of the nature of his work. And I'm presuming you can't disable the iGPU. You are really boxing him into a terrible situation and just because you can tolerate Linux nonsense does not automatically make it an ideal solution for others.

Similarly, just because you can tolerate Apple nonsense does not automatically make it an ideal solution for others.

Sure but I already stated this in my original comment. He cannot use Apple despite it being much better designed to address his complaints.

Re: Framework laptop delay in switching GPUs

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Post by saturn8601 »

happymellon wrote: post #20
saturn8601 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He is using the top of the line hardware because of the nature of his work. And I'm presuming you can't disable the iGPU. You are really boxing him into a terrible situation and just because you can tolerate Linux nonsense does not automatically make it an ideal solution for others.

What nonsense? I see lots of Stockholm syndrome from Windows users who like to invent issues with other OS'.

>What nonsense? I see lots of Stockholm syndrome from Windows users who like to invent issues with other OS'.

Agreed, I always push back on nonsense from Windows users as well as Linux users. Like I mentioned in my original comment, his main complaints could be solved by Apple but he is stuck with a poorly designed OS given the nature of his work. Linux would not be an improvement as it would still present him with a litany of problems for him to complain about. His main concern would be addressed with the top of the line M series GPU.

Re: Framework laptop delay in switching GPUs

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Post by Nab443 »

bzzzt wrote: post #14
greatgib wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mac also has its issues just you are so used to it that you don't realize it anymore. Like for me the Mac will sometimes randomly turn on from sleep like in the middle of the night. For updates or things like that. When you have wireless mouse but probably any kind of mouse, just a slight move of it will wake the laptop from sleep. When you have the fingerprint sensor equiped power button, the thing constantly mix up…

> the Mac will sometimes randomly turn on from sleep like in the middle of the night. For updates or things like that. If it's for updates it's not random. Modern M series macs also don't really sleep anymore, they just enter a very low power state.

To be fair it's still random from the user perspective.
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