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Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

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Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

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Post by OJFord »

jjmarr wrote: post #11
dexwiz wrote: post #3

No matter the industry, it sucks to have someone managing by dashboard. In classic post modernism, the signifier replaces the signified. If anything, it’s a great signal to the employee that it’s time to start looking elsewhere.

I don't get why people hate on post-structuralism. The process of reality getting abstracted to the point abstractions stop being representative of reality is extremely common in software engineering. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality A hyperreal workplace is one where representations of reality take precedence over reality itself, and the reality of a situation ceases to have meaning. i.e. One where people…

Whenever I want to feel completely stupid, I just open a Wikipedia page on some philosophical term/idea and go down a rabbit hole of links that it's a concept in/argument against/etc.

Just completely impenetrably baffling to me in a way that other fields like chemistry or microbiology or physics or whatever (despite also not being my own) aren't. Not that I understand them, but they're penetrable, I can read more and more and form some kind of understanding.

Is it just me? I don't know what it is, can it really be as simple as philosophy not being taught at school (compulsorily, or young) so I don't have that kind of rough overview of the landscape I do for other broad subjects? (I did take one course in 'contemporary philosophy' at university, which I enjoyed, but we covered only what we covered I suppose - I might be able to hold a (very) basic conversation about Sartre or Wittgenstein, but that page on post-structuralism.. no idea!)

Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

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Post by _dain_ »

OJFord wrote: post #21
jjmarr wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get why people hate on post-structuralism. The process of reality getting abstracted to the point abstractions stop being representative of reality is extremely common in software engineering. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality A hyperreal workplace is one where representations of reality take precedence over reality itself, and the reality of a situation ceases to have meaning. i.e. One where people…

Whenever I want to feel completely stupid, I just open a Wikipedia page on some philosophical term/idea and go down a rabbit hole of links that it's a concept in/argument against/etc. Just completely impenetrably baffling to me in a way that other fields like chemistry or microbiology or physics or whatever (despite also not being my own) aren't. Not that I understand them, but they're penetrable , I can read more an…

you aren't stupid. philosophers forgot how to write clearly sometime in the past century.

Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

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Post by nsxwolf »

We frequently have the issue of, upon refactoring code in such a way that involves moving it and its tests to a new file, Sonar will take away our previous "credit" for code coverage percentage, dropping our project below the threshold and failing.

The only workaround I've found is to create a new function, fill it full of many useless no-op lines, and write a test for that function, just to bump the percentages back up. This is often harder than it sounds, because the linter will block many types of useless no-op code. We then remove the code as part of another ticket.

Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

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Post by ars »

Emigre_ wrote: post #10

Sonar doesn't seem to really work in my limited experience. It adds a lot of of time to builds, at least in the cases I've seen, while there are alternate linters or code quality tools capable of doing the same at a fraction of the time. Build times and development speed matter!... They matter a lot. You need a quick feedback loop.

I use Sonar all the time, but not during build. It runs live while I'm editing a file. I've not noticed any slowdown at all, and it's certainly a quick feedback loop (it runs when I save the file).

I've found the majority of its suggestions helpful, and the ones that are not I simply ignore.

Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

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Post by nsxwolf »

EricRiese wrote: post #20
eigenvalue wrote: post #14

This sounds truly hellish, like being controlled by a stupid robot straight out of Kafka's "The Trial." They should allow special one off exception that are documented with a comment, similar to how you can disable Ruff warnings in python code for a single like # noqa: F401

They do // Nosonar

Google "nosonar doesn't work" for a million war stories about how this is not a solution.

Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

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Post by lesuorac »

nsxwolf wrote: post #23

We frequently have the issue of, upon refactoring code in such a way that involves moving it and its tests to a new file, Sonar will take away our previous "credit" for code coverage percentage, dropping our project below the threshold and failing. The only workaround I've found is to create a new function, fill it full of many useless no-op lines, and write a test for that function, just to bump the percentages back…

Heh, at one place I wrote some java code that would use reflections to test the getter/setters in a POJO so that it wouldn't end up with 0% code coverage.

Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

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Post by orwin »

pdonis wrote: post #15
jjmarr wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get why people hate on post-structuralism. The process of reality getting abstracted to the point abstractions stop being representative of reality is extremely common in software engineering. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality A hyperreal workplace is one where representations of reality take precedence over reality itself, and the reality of a situation ceases to have meaning. i.e. One where people…

> I don't get why people hate on post-structuralism. Because, rather than recognize that overdoing abstractions is a thing and reminding people that there is always reality out there that won't bend to your wishes, post-modernism (which is the term the GP used) tells people that there is no reality out there, it's all just human-created abstractions, and anyone who tries to push back because reality is just insuffici…

That's typically _not_ what post-modernism is, that's at best a misunderstanding, but more likely a strawman.

The only point on which all post-modernists agree is a refutation of meta-narratives (and to be explicit: "here is no reality out there, it's all just human-created abstractions" is a meta-narrative).

A very, very charitable interpretation is that you are maybe conflating it with Frankfurt School of critical theory, because it is also somewhat used/based on psychoanalysis (sigh) (latest postmodernists use psychoanalysis way less, also post-modernism isn't built on it, contrary to critical theory). Postmodernism is mostly post-marxism though, while critical theory is mostly neo-marxist imho (also, i don't want to be too critical of Frankfurt's school, i think most of their bad rep is caused by bad vulgarization/pop-science, most critics i read don't seems to understand why it's wrong either).

I do think that the reason most people conflate the two is because of an idiotic canadian psychoanalyst who can't read (or at least, can't understand what he read), who _clearly_ has no degree in literature or philosophy, and try to appear smarter than he is. He invent citations of the books, and sometime state that Derrida mean something when Derrida hismself wrote the opposite. 8th grader would do better and their reading comprehension assignment. He is wrong. Read and think by yourself.

Re: Sonar is destroying my job and it's driving me to despair

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Post by icholy »

Juliate wrote: post #4

The root issue is the superior not having a clue. Sonar in this case, is sadly enabling this type of superior to be even more harmful, not to the developers only, but to the actual business of the company. And Sonar is far from being alone in this. JIRA is the most glaring example I can think of. Growing companies implement cargo-culted tools without understanding the needs and requirements, and let themselves drift…

We used to have a rule where you couldn't move issues "backwards" in the workflow. Accidentally closed an issue? Gotta create a new one.
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