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How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by okr »

Xenoamorphous wrote: post #12
richrichie wrote: post #2

Sugar is everywhere, cheap, legal and culturally important (birthday parties, weddings, farewell parties, etc). Very difficult to create isolation environment, unless one goes full Ted Kaczynski. I don’t want to discourage the author, but i am old, so yeah been there, done that. But avoiding sugar like its evil is not healthy. Nor is it sustainable. It appears that the author is probably young and single. That may he…

> Sugar is everywhere, cheap, legal and culturally important (birthday parties, weddings, farewell parties, etc). Those should all be rare occasions.

In a social environment these things are not rare. I wish. But ppl dont stop having these birthdays distributed all over the year. :)

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by alamortsubite »

My girlfriend works at a hospital, where ironically there's always a steady supply of sugary treats on hand. It's a crutch as they're constantly dealing with truly unpleasant situations, but ultimately very unhealthy. I wish they had something to kick them out of the cycle. Years ago, I pitched the idea of armbands for staff that pledged abstinence. It fell flat. I don't have a problem with sugar but probably only thanks to my weird environment and being extremely active.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by xcskier56 »

chollida1 wrote: post #11
waynenilsen wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much protein can you eat before getting kicked out of ketosis?

why would protein kick you out of ketosis, on Keto alot of people, especially athletes load up on as much protein as they can and use fat to get the rest of their calories.

My biochem is a little rusty but basically your body can create glucose (carbs) from amino acids (proteins) in a process called gluconeogenesis. Because your body will preferentially use glucose over fat and ketones for fuel, it will prioritize this pathway and turn down/off the one that produces ketones... hence dropping you out of ketosis.

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Post by oarfish »

chollida1 wrote: post #11
waynenilsen wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much protein can you eat before getting kicked out of ketosis?

why would protein kick you out of ketosis, on Keto alot of people, especially athletes load up on as much protein as they can and use fat to get the rest of their calories.

As an athlete you shouldn't avoid carbs, unless you are ok with impairing your athletic performance.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by oarfish »

silverquiet wrote: post #20
chollida1 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why would protein kick you out of ketosis, on Keto alot of people, especially athletes load up on as much protein as they can and use fat to get the rest of their calories.

I was under the impression that the body can synthesize sugars if given enough protein.

I think you can make 150g or so of glucose (?) yourself, but whether thats enough might depend on what you are doing in life i think.

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Post by swiftcoder »

infecto wrote: post #8
keepamovin wrote: post #5

Is semaglutide to sugar what naltrexone is to opiates?

Hmmm I think it goes much further since semaglutide is showing promise and helping those with alcohol addiction.

Is alcohol dependencies all that different, chemically? Alcohol metabolises to sugar pretty damn well (at least till your liver gives up)

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by ThinkBeat »

To compare it to heroin is a horrible trivialization of something that destroys a person and at time those around the person.

I feel that to make this statement in any genuine way, the author should spend 6 months developing a serious addiction to heroin then attempt to get clean.

I am blessed I have never done heroin and hopefully I never will.

I have gone weeks without sugar and had a craving, some mild headaches and at times been a bit grumpier. That is not even a measurable fraction of trying to get sober from a heroin addiction.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by cubefox »

Quitting cold turkey after a change of environment (moving somewhere else) is a good tip not just for addiction, but for any change in habit.

However, a more practical approach is to reduce the dosage slowly. That works especially well for sweet drinks. If you have a soda maker, you can slowly reduce the amount of syrup you use.

After a while, your tolerance for sweetness goes down, so things that previously felt not sweet enough feel just right, and things that felt just right before will now feel overly sweet. This will then also help with reducing sweet food.

Re: How I overcame my addiction to sugar

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Post by cm2187 »

chollida1 wrote: post #13
breck wrote: post #4

I'm 254 days into switching to a ketogenic diet (complete with at home instant ketone finger prick blood tests using the very affordable keto mojo), and can't believe I waited so long. I was roughly surfing sugar highs for 39 years. Would highly recommend looking into this if you are a sugar/carb addict like I was.

My biggest problem with Keto is that is that one bad meal and your out. I found it was just such a pain in the as for other as much as it was for me. Every meal at someone elses house I had to make my specific nutritional requirements available to the host, which then puts them out.

Same thing with intermittent fasting. One deviation and the appetite comes back with a vengeance and you have to restart from scratch the process of getting used to fasting (which is the hard part, the appetite is what makes the caveman go out chase the mammoth, it's a strong force).

Experimenting with Mounjaro right now + intermittent fasting. So far so good, but only one week into it. I am hoping to use it as a guardrail in case of any accidental deviation.

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