Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs • Hacker News Board

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by tetris11 » Thu, Jun 27, 2024, 11:13 AM UTC

martin_a wrote: post #11

N_A_T_E wrote: post #9

Anybody else a bit scared for how this tech will impact people? It seems quite far reaching. Job loss from video production and film. Ease of spreading misinformation, lies and propaganda. I could even see less investment in physical infrastructure as real world experiences get replaced by generated video. Scary stuff.

If you want to look at it from a brighter side, I think it's great that this tech exists and people know about it in large and how easy it is to fabricate false information with this. If I was very optimistic, I'd hope that people would question more what they see and hear and read to due to widespread of "Gen AI tools". In reality that will most likely not happen, but yeah, one can hope. And on job loss: Jobs come a…

Yeah but the people reskilled into other demanding jobs that still needed people.

With AI, the demand for that skillset is diminishing as is the need for people at all.

We're heading towards a Solaria situation, where the rich genuinely might no longer need to employ the masses, or sell them products. What would you do if you had a magic box that met all your needs? Pay a consultant? Hire a gardener? Call a maid? Request an escort? Why.

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jun 27, 2024, 11:15 AM UTC

voidUpdate wrote: post #15

"pretty good" is definitely one point of view... all those videos look very blobby and morph-y

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Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by jampekka » Thu, Jun 27, 2024, 11:16 AM UTC

__loam wrote: post #10

_flux wrote: post #5

It's probably not the best idea to base your clone on the name that is being trademarked: https://trademarks.justia.com/984/05/sora-98405663.html

AI developers don't care about intellectual property.

Which is a positive turn of events. Intellectual property as a concept needs to go.

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by jebarker » Thu, Jun 27, 2024, 11:19 AM UTC

blcknight wrote: post #4

How can they use the Sora name, isn’t that trademarked?

Quite possibly: https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/product/component/sora-r3000....

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by jampekka » Thu, Jun 27, 2024, 11:19 AM UTC

nope1000 wrote: post #8

Genuine question: can you just call your alternative to product x "Open-x"?

Depends on how rich and powerful you are.

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by kaptainscarlet » Thu, Jun 27, 2024, 11:20 AM UTC

One thing I wish for is for AI-generated images to have awareness for physical constraints.

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by pylua » Thu, Jun 27, 2024, 11:21 AM UTC

wegfawefgawefg wrote: post #17

N_A_T_E wrote: post #9

Anybody else a bit scared for how this tech will impact people? It seems quite far reaching. Job loss from video production and film. Ease of spreading misinformation, lies and propaganda. I could even see less investment in physical infrastructure as real world experiences get replaced by generated video. Scary stuff.

A hammer can be used to hit nails or bash skulls. There are billions of hammers.

This is more like a magic wand in terms of its effectiveness . I think that’s the difference.

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by jsheard » Thu, Jun 27, 2024, 11:21 AM UTC

jampekka wrote: post #23

__loam wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI developers don't care about intellectual property.

Which is a positive turn of events. Intellectual property as a concept needs to go.

It's a one-way street with AI companies though, they are against IP protection for training data but support IP protection for the product of that training. Read the TOS/license of nearly any big model and it's clear the creator considers it and its output to be their IP and they will fight to restrict how you can use it for commercial purposes or training competing models, because those being a free-for-all would get in the way of their business model.

In practice it's less "abolishing intellectual property" and more "transmuting everyone else's IP into their own IP so they can be the ultimate IP landlords".

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by resource_waste » Thu, Jun 27, 2024, 11:26 AM UTC

thriftwy wrote: post #6

zdyn5 wrote: post #3

I know it’s probably using < 1000x compute of the real Sora, but “pretty good” is stretching it

Just run all key frames through stable diffusion and it should be quite good.

>Just

Adding the word 'just' doesnt make it any easier. Something I've noticed is that people who have never done something themselves and are telling someone to do an difficult task, will use:

"Just"

in-front of it.

This is particularly relevant in tech.

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Post by mihaic » Thu, Jun 27, 2024, 11:27 AM UTC

nope1000 wrote: post #8

Genuine question: can you just call your alternative to product x "Open-x"?

Ironically, I think having a Twitter clone be called Open-X might fly legally, since that's generic enough, but pretty much any other instance where the trademarked name is very specific, like Open-Google or Open-Facebook would be surely easy to be removed by a judge. It's just that it takes a while for this process to happen, and until there's a legal injunction you can still use the name.