The full episode takes very disturbing twists and turns, worth a watch.
Tripping on Xenon Gas (2023)
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Re: Tripping on Xenon Gas (2023)
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No, xenon is a NMDA antagonist meaning it has dissociative/anaesthetic effects like ketamine or nitrous oxide. TFA talks about the effects coming on "within seconds" of inhalation, so it is clearly not just hypoxia which takes tens of seconds or minutes to manifest.
How does it do that without forming chemical compounds? Is it like a catalyst for another reaction or something?
Re: Tripping on Xenon Gas (2023)
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Reading the intro I was expecting g something totally impossibly expensive but > Xenon is extremely expensive — a single 30-second dose costs between $50 and $80 I mean, it just seems like a normal rip off, not even that exclusive.
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An unusual medically-safe (in medical contexts) anesthetic generating curiosity about recreational effects and safe use is not unreasonable, and having that curiosity certainly doesn't imply that someone is "not ok!"
I'm not saying that Xenon isn't exotic; it likely takes someone with a strong background in less-dangerous inhalant usage (and deep pockets) to use it safely. But there are plenty of exotic substances that people use safely and sanely throughout the world, and telling people off for having interest drawn from a (reasonably balanced, I would say) source ain't the business.
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#26Wouldn't it be the same as breathing any other nonreactive gas? Isn't this just symptoms of hypoxia?
Clearly the symptoms aren't the same as just holding your breath, which makes me think that it is not, in fact, completely nonreactive. (But I'm a total noob to biochemistry.) Similar to Nitrous Oxide, which definitely has a powerful psychedelic effect and is not at all simply hypoxia.
Re: Tripping on Xenon Gas (2023)
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, xenon is a NMDA antagonist meaning it has dissociative/anaesthetic effects like ketamine or nitrous oxide. TFA talks about the effects coming on "within seconds" of inhalation, so it is clearly not just hypoxia which takes tens of seconds or minutes to manifest.
How does it do that without forming chemical compounds? Is it like a catalyst for another reaction or something?
Our cells use single atoms, usually in the form of charged ions, on a regular basis and we would not survive without them
Re: Tripping on Xenon Gas (2023)
#28Wouldn't it be the same as breathing any other nonreactive gas? Isn't this just symptoms of hypoxia?
Clearly the symptoms aren't the same as just holding your breath, which makes me think that it is not, in fact, completely nonreactive. (But I'm a total noob to biochemistry.) Similar to Nitrous Oxide, which definitely has a powerful psychedelic effect and is not at all simply hypoxia.
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Couldn't you say the same about any extreme activity (like going to the moon or base jumping or extreme stuntmen etc)? Some people seek out risk because it makes life worth living. Life is finite anyways so even if you are very careful you'll end up dead just like the rest of us.
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#30> Xenon is unique among psychedelic drugs because it’s a pure element. It leaves the body exactly as it entered, completely unchanged. I very doubt it is true. The article poorly hand waves later that a brain without oxygen will starve. I bet shooting this crap for some short term high will burn your brain cells, even if mixed with oxygen.