Why the hell aren't the EU and the FTC suing the shit out of them for bundling, telemetry, lock in, gouging, shitty defaults?
Great question.
Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
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Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#22To me Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook they all seem by a degree or another totally out of control. They seem to be so careless of any short-long term consequence that I wonder if there is any accountability at all or if it’s just a shitshow of who does perform better and get bonuses
They’re all monopolies. We just need to formally redefine the terminology around anti trust to punish the anti competitive nature of all these tech giants
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
It forced me this last time I set up windows 11
Hit Shift + F10 at the Windows 11 setup screen to open a command prompt, then enter `oobe\bypassnro`. After this, skip connecting to a network and this will allow you to create a local account. It's extremely obnoxious that they've made it this difficult.
didn't work for me on 24H2 /shrug
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#24I'm not the target market for Windows, haven't been for a while.
But I genuinely cannot figure out what Microsoft's vision for Windows 11 is. Or if they even have one beyond "idk, shove crap in, meet OKR, get promotion... maybe?"
For a while, it seemed like they were focused on making sure that they could link as much of your activity on your computer to you, as a person - witness the ever-increasing challenge of an offline-only account, which means the value of knowing the email address of the signed in user is substantial. And then they embedded ad delivery as a first class participant in the platform - the sort of crap that used to be common from people who installed Bonzai Dancer Cursor Free or such is now literally part of the OS.
... and then it's just gone weird. AI with Copilot, Recall, etc. There doesn't appear to be a coherent vision of what it is, beyond a place to shovel crap, deliver unwanted applications (that they get paid to shove at people, presumably), and install lots of updates.
Linux has problems, but there are no shortage of distros that just run apps, without delivering all your behavioral surplus up for collection, and that's what (IMO) an OS should be. Windows 11, from the outside, doesn't look like it's serving me. Except in the sense that it's focused on "serving me to Microsoft for further subversion of my will."
... and apparently Windows will now orange screen? Last time someone offered to let me touch a Windows machine, it orange screened in protest before I could even touch anything. At least the feeling is mutual.
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#25Microsoft makes it a pain, but you can still jump through some CLI hoops to use only a local user account to log in to Windows, rather than the cloud-conmected Microsoft account they try to funnel you into. Not logging into a Microsoft account prevents OneDrive from doing anything other than spamming you with notifications about how great it would be if you logged in and started using it. And you can still uninstall…
You can still use it offline without an account just fine with Pro SKUs and up.
You can use offline accounts with Home as well.
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#26I've never found any compelling reason to set up Windows 11 (or 10) with an online account. Things like this just reinforce my decision to stick with a local account.
The only one I ever found was that it made new installations of Windows free with a digital licence associated with your account. I don't know if this is still true of Windows 11.
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#27Seems like a great place to store tons of ISO's.
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#28Microsoft makes it a pain, but you can still jump through some CLI hoops to use only a local user account to log in to Windows, rather than the cloud-conmected Microsoft account they try to funnel you into. Not logging into a Microsoft account prevents OneDrive from doing anything other than spamming you with notifications about how great it would be if you logged in and started using it. And you can still uninstall…
You can still use it offline without an account just fine with Pro SKUs and up.
Installed Windows 11 Pro, had to do some CLI dickery to get the option for local only account.
Re: Windows 11 is now enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
#29Why the hell aren't the EU and the FTC suing the shit out of them for bundling, telemetry, lock in, gouging, shitty defaults?
I've been wondering this too. The stuff Microsoft has been pulling for the last decade is just ripe for them to go after, yet all you hear is crickets.