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Why your brain is 3 milion more times efficient than GPT-4

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Re: Why your brain is 3 milion more times efficient than GPT-4

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If some day AGI happens and can exists on its own, wouldn’t that prove that intelligence is a base requirement for intelligence to happen in the first place ? AGI can’t happen on its own, it needs our intelligence first to help it structure itself

Do you think the same thing is required for flying? that aeroplanes can only be created by birds?

Intelligence and flying are different things, a leaf falling down a tree « fly » because of laws of nature.

Re: Why your brain is 3 milion more times efficient than GPT-4

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FTFY: ONLY 3 million times. At the current pace of development, AI will catch-up in a decade or less.

How does that math work out? The developments during the last year has been... Abysmal? The hype and marketing bull is increasing exponentially though.

Re: Why your brain is 3 milion more times efficient than GPT-4

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If some day AGI happens and can exists on its own, wouldn’t that prove that intelligence is a base requirement for intelligence to happen in the first place ? AGI can’t happen on its own, it needs our intelligence first to help it structure itself

Only if we talk about trained intelligence. Likely the requirements for evolved intelligence are different and involve being embodied, edonistic, and the pressure of a selection mechanism

If a spontaneous intelligence is 3 million times more efficient that one that one who took millions of hours of work from brains (there is so much effort that there is even more work put into AI that evolution who thinly spread changes through time, efforts diluted). We either have to define that AI will never be the same as HI and can’t compete with it or it’s of the same nature as some people say on HN and for me it brings the question of intelligence needed for an other one to appear. Because we have no other history of something that complex and intelligent ever emerging. The only thing that some of us consider as intelligent as us if not more, could ever emerge because of tremendous efforts and structure and will from our part (or from our intelligence)

Re: Why your brain is 3 milion more times efficient than GPT-4

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If some day AGI happens and can exists on its own, wouldn’t that prove that intelligence is a base requirement for intelligence to happen in the first place ? AGI can’t happen on its own, it needs our intelligence first to help it structure itself

Ah, the good old chicken and chicken paradox. Which came first, the chicken, or the chicken?

Re: Why your brain is 3 milion more times efficient than GPT-4

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If some day AGI happens and can exists on its own, wouldn’t that prove that intelligence is a base requirement for intelligence to happen in the first place ? AGI can’t happen on its own, it needs our intelligence first to help it structure itself

> If some day AGI happens and can exists on its own, wouldn’t that prove that intelligence is a base requirement for intelligence to happen in the first place ?

No, it would not.

Re: Why your brain is 3 milion more times efficient than GPT-4

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post #21

FTFY: ONLY 3 million times. At the current pace of development, AI will catch-up in a decade or less.

How does that math work out? The developments during the last year has been... Abysmal? The hype and marketing bull is increasing exponentially though.

Groq, which appeared 4 months ago, was an abysmal development for efficiency?

Re: Why your brain is 3 milion more times efficient than GPT-4

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I feel the author is comparing an abstract representation of the brain to a mechanical representation of a computer. This is not a fair or useful comparison. If a computer does not understand words, neither does your brain. While electromagnetic charge in the brain does not at all correspond with electromagnetic charge in a GPU, they do share an abstraction level, unlike words vs bits.

No, only a brain can "think" and be original. A computer is limited to what we input to it. An "AI" simply recapitulates what it was trained on.

I have heard this exact sentence so many times already. Are you sure? I'd take a good look inside myself now if I were in your shoes.
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