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Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by airocker »

cjk2 wrote: post #13

It's worse than that. They always sacrifice their customers to try and win new business on some fad of the hour. Every fucking time. This has been going on 20 years at least. This is another Windows Phone. They shaft the entire platform for a decade to fulfil some stupid fucked up half baked ideology. Imagine Windows if they invested in their customers rather than their stock price and ego. Imagine if they became a b…

This is so true! Going after the pie in the sky only works for a short while, then you have to work for your pie. the worst is that employees in windows used to get slower promotions than these new tech groups (live,mobile etc ) which means more of them are in powerful positions to continue this trend. They tasted success with this strategy in their early days when they built sq L, xbox and word. Azure was the last successful play like this but at least they wrote own software.

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by dagmx »

mittermayr wrote: post #8
drpossum wrote: post #6

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This comment is under every single post related to Microsoft. I am 50/50 between Apple and Microsoft operating systems, and quite frankly, I don't notice any ads on Windows. Apple is actually more annoying at times (with their constant upgrade and product release promos). I get that Microsoft keeps making mistakes, but in terms of ads and bad behavior, I'd highly recommend taking a look at what Google has been up to.…

The start menu has had ads since Windows 8.

It started off as ads for candy crush and MSN affiliates and has grown from there over the years.

I’m very surprised you haven’t noticed it. On early windows 10 it would occupy the right side of the start menu.

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by chucke1992 »

natas wrote: post #3

Now that OpenAI has chosen Oracle Cloud, Microsoft is becoming completely irrelevant in the domain of AI, and their "efforts" will soon be regarded as a "cloud clippy"

do you understand that Oracle was chosen in the first because all the cloud providers are running out of the available hardware? Microsoft also partnered with Oracle with the same reason. Oracle has some cloud infra, that nobody is using (lol).

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by cjk2 »

dageshi wrote: post #18
cjk2 wrote: post #13

It's worse than that. They always sacrifice their customers to try and win new business on some fad of the hour. Every fucking time. This has been going on 20 years at least. This is another Windows Phone. They shaft the entire platform for a decade to fulfil some stupid fucked up half baked ideology. Imagine Windows if they invested in their customers rather than their stock price and ego. Imagine if they became a b…

Most people do trust them already, they're still the worlds biggest desktop os by a large margin. So erm, it probably wouldn't make any meaningful difference?

Actually no we don't. I work for a company with 10,000 windows seats and we use it because we're basically locked in and stuck with the steaming turd. And the rug is getting pulled on Windows 10 now.

Notably one of our biggest security threat vectors is actually Windows. The security model on it is so crap it's either locked down so it's completely unusable via GPOs and behind DLP proxies and firewalls. Or the risk is accepted and as a regulated industry we get fined to death if anything goes wrong.

So no we aren't happy, we don't trust them but we have to gargle it anyway.

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by cjk2 »

airocker wrote: post #21
cjk2 wrote: post #13

It's worse than that. They always sacrifice their customers to try and win new business on some fad of the hour. Every fucking time. This has been going on 20 years at least. This is another Windows Phone. They shaft the entire platform for a decade to fulfil some stupid fucked up half baked ideology. Imagine Windows if they invested in their customers rather than their stock price and ego. Imagine if they became a b…

This is so true! Going after the pie in the sky only works for a short while, then you have to work for your pie. the worst is that employees in windows used to get slower promotions than these new tech groups (live,mobile etc ) which means more of them are in powerful positions to continue this trend. They tasted success with this strategy in their early days when they built sq L, xbox and word. Azure was the last s…

As my father used to say, shit floats to the top of the tank. Shit being sycophants, yes men and liars usually. Oh that sums up MSFT senior management nicely.

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by throwawayqqq11 »

cjk2 wrote: post #27
airocker wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is so true! Going after the pie in the sky only works for a short while, then you have to work for your pie. the worst is that employees in windows used to get slower promotions than these new tech groups (live,mobile etc ) which means more of them are in powerful positions to continue this trend. They tasted success with this strategy in their early days when they built sq L, xbox and word. Azure was the last s…

As my father used to say, shit floats to the top of the tank. Shit being sycophants, yes men and liars usually. Oh that sums up MSFT senior management nicely.

And this is why you cannot trust any corporation in the long term and why i think copy left licences are becomming a hidden corner stone of our civilization.

Re: Microsoft insiders worry the company has become just 'IT for OpenAI'

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Post by mizzao »

cjk2 wrote: post #28
chucke1992 wrote: post #19

I mean, AI is a vector for their growth now and Satya questioned in the past like why Microsoft research did not produce something like OpenAI.

That'd be because MSR was working on stuff for customers, not for shareholders...

MSR was actually working for themselves (researchers who were career paper-publishers aka professors without teaching responsibilities).

Source: worked at MSR

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