Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns

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Post by ASalazarMX » Fri, Jun 21, 2024, 5:22 PM UTC

helsinkiandrew wrote: post #4

> “We are concerned that the interoperability requirements of the DMA could force us to compromise the integrity of our products in ways that risk user privacy and data security,” Apple said in a statement. Apart from the “security concerns” of allowing use of non Apple services it will be interesting to hear the specifics of these. I thought most AI features were being released in American English before other local…

And it makes me wonder what they can get away with in other countries that they are afraid to try in the EU.

Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jun 21, 2024, 5:22 PM UTC

Hamuko wrote: post #5

> The company announced Friday it would block the release of [...] iPhone Mirroring [...] from users in the EU this year, because the Digital Markets Act allegedly forces it to downgrade the security of its products and services. Huh?

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Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns

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Post by russdpale » Fri, Jun 21, 2024, 5:23 PM UTC

talldayo wrote: post #18

selectodude wrote: post #11

The regulations around AI in the European Union are not well formed. The EU has shown that they will regulate things years later and impose massive fines and business costs. The EU also happens to be Apple’s least profitable market, and one that isn’t going to be growing over the next two decades. There’s just no reason to get involved over there. It’s not worth the risk.

> The EU has shown that they will regulate things years later and impose massive fines and business costs. If that makes the EU look bad, imagine how goddamn incompetent the US regulators look right now.

Corrupt, that is how US regulators look, and everyone knows it. But this is the website that is spawning far right fascists who are advocating for political violence in the bay area, so I don't think you will get a lot of reasonable takes here.

Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns

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Post by mistrial9 » Fri, Jun 21, 2024, 5:23 PM UTC

kmlx wrote: post #10

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sentimental slop -- the USA has a teen mental health epidemic, plastics trash in the waterways, tire residue in the fresh water, and many other avoidable woes.. 100x for China. In a longer time frame, pushback is healthy for stability

Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns

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Post by selectodude » Fri, Jun 21, 2024, 5:23 PM UTC

talldayo wrote: post #18

selectodude wrote: post #11

The regulations around AI in the European Union are not well formed. The EU has shown that they will regulate things years later and impose massive fines and business costs. The EU also happens to be Apple’s least profitable market, and one that isn’t going to be growing over the next two decades. There’s just no reason to get involved over there. It’s not worth the risk.

> The EU has shown that they will regulate things years later and impose massive fines and business costs. If that makes the EU look bad, imagine how goddamn incompetent the US regulators look right now.

It has nothing to do with the US. EU regulations are simultaneously unclear and very aggressive. There is significant business risk to operating there as a multi-national. It’s becoming a region that is profitable enough to exist in but not to invest in and Apple is declining the regulatory risk of introducing AI there. Some companies will go for it. Apple is too risk averse. Simple as that.

Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns

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Post by e38383 » Fri, Jun 21, 2024, 5:23 PM UTC

I can totally understand why Apple is doing this. And I hate it. Mostly because the regulations are not technical enough to get followed within soft- and hardware. The EU is just preventing any (most, maybe just a few, but „any“ from my perspective) new (consumer) technology now.

Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns

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Post by riddlemethat » Fri, Jun 21, 2024, 5:24 PM UTC

kmlx wrote: post #10

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As an American, my perception is that Europeans work to live while those of us in the States live to work; the highest crime in America is hurting the rich, and the highest crime in Europe is hurting the working class.

Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns

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Post by darth_avocado » Fri, Jun 21, 2024, 5:26 PM UTC

yokoprime wrote: post #7

Extorsion won’t help Apple, people will just use other services or platforms

Like? The regulatory concerns will exist for ANY AI offering.

Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns

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Post by nope1000 » Fri, Jun 21, 2024, 5:27 PM UTC

selectodude wrote: post #11

The regulations around AI in the European Union are not well formed. The EU has shown that they will regulate things years later and impose massive fines and business costs. The EU also happens to be Apple’s least profitable market, and one that isn’t going to be growing over the next two decades. There’s just no reason to get involved over there. It’s not worth the risk.

They do not cite the AI act (which they probably comply with) as a reason but rather the Digital Markets Act

Re: Apple won't roll out AI tech in EU market over regulatory concerns

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Post by spideymans » Fri, Jun 21, 2024, 5:27 PM UTC

Over the years, overregulation will continue to lock the EU out of bleeding-edge technologies. Every feature, every website, every innovation that doesn’t launch in the EU further plunges the bloc into technological irrelevance.