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Re: Instagram Recommends Sexual Videos to Accounts for 13-Year-Olds, Tests Show

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Post by aydyn »

throwway120385 wrote: post #5
gigatexal wrote: post #3

Maybe social media was a mistake. Oh well… Pandora’s box and all that Congress won’t do anything; it’s too mired in infighting and lobbyists. And these companies’s better angels won’t do anything about this.

Maybe using opaque algorithms to score and assign prominence to specific content based on ill-defined metrics like "engagement" was a mistake.

If an algorithm correctly determines content that will keep a person interested, and that content is, lets say problematic, isn't that an issue with the person not the algorithm?

Re: Instagram Recommends Sexual Videos to Accounts for 13-Year-Olds, Tests Show

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Post by pizzathyme »

rdtsc wrote: post #9

> In one clip that Instagram recommended to a test account identified as 13 years old, an adult performer promised to send a picture of her “chest bags” via direct message to anyone who commented on her video. Another flashed her genitalia at the camera. When it comes encryption and privacy the legislators just can't wait to jump in an "save the children", let's see how vigorous they are going to be investigating and…

The reason for the US government banning TikTok is not that TikTok is a worse product (it is superior).

The reason is that it is a massive geopolitical risk.

People often conflate these two.

Re: Instagram Recommends Sexual Videos to Accounts for 13-Year-Olds, Tests Show

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Post by fragmede »

rdtsc wrote: post #9

> In one clip that Instagram recommended to a test account identified as 13 years old, an adult performer promised to send a picture of her “chest bags” via direct message to anyone who commented on her video. Another flashed her genitalia at the camera. When it comes encryption and privacy the legislators just can't wait to jump in an "save the children", let's see how vigorous they are going to be investigating and…

This is the same "evil" TikTok that has a child predator problem where older men DM sexually explicit content to accounts of 14 year old children*, and generally a problem with predators**, ?

* https://www.forbes.com/sites/simonchandler/2020/11/02/tiktok...

** https://www.mmguardian.com/blog/tiktok-predators

https://cseinstitute.org/tiktok-and-the-growing-media-exploi...

Re: Instagram Recommends Sexual Videos to Accounts for 13-Year-Olds, Tests Show

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Post by fragmede »

infecto wrote: post #18
tehjoker wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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So you are saying that TikTok US shares zero code to TikTok China? I never suggested that data is going back to China but my engineering mind jumps immediately to the backends sharing code albeit deployed from two different companies and regions. China is famous for its fast and efficient censorship in social media and assume this ability would transfer to the US.

How often have you seen gore or CSAM on Facebook?

Re: Instagram Recommends Sexual Videos to Accounts for 13-Year-Olds, Tests Show

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Post by Spivak »

arp242 wrote: post #11
cue_the_strings wrote: post #6

I'm genuinely curious, how old were you when you were first exposed to sexual content? I think I was like 7 or 8. Like, we had a channel ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTV_Palma ) publicly broadcasting porn after midnight (I don't remember watching that) and all the older (~15YO) kids around the neighborhood were collecting porn magazines from who knows where and hiding them around in "caches". I remember all the ol…

I don't think you can really compare staying up late to sneakily watch a (typically soft-core) porn and things like that to always having this content being pushed on you with a device always in your pocket every day. It's really a matter of degree and scale.

I guess but I had unfiltered access to the internet starting around this age and it was fine.

There were two stages of my life, too young to understand or have any desire for sexual content, and old enough to want and seek out sexual content. At 13 I was well into the second stage and it's super weird how we pretend that tweens and teens aren't horny as hell despite all of us having lived through the hormonal onslaught.

Looking back having access to stuff beyond extremely sanitized softcore porn was extremely healthy. I learned from a young age that sex was a thing people did for fun, it wasn't super serious, and desires I had and were ashamed of were completely normal and honestly kind of vanilla.

Re: Instagram Recommends Sexual Videos to Accounts for 13-Year-Olds, Tests Show

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Post by burningChrome »

rdtsc wrote: post #9

> In one clip that Instagram recommended to a test account identified as 13 years old, an adult performer promised to send a picture of her “chest bags” via direct message to anyone who commented on her video. Another flashed her genitalia at the camera. When it comes encryption and privacy the legislators just can't wait to jump in an "save the children", let's see how vigorous they are going to be investigating and…

I would be interested to know how many people are coming from different social media platforms TO tikTok for this kind of content. I know back in the day almost every subreddit that had porn or women posting pics would also link to their tiktok accounts and many of the videos and accounts were also posted on tiktok so a woman could post a few pics or videos, link to their tiktok account and then get people to subscribe to their accounts there.

There's also an assumption that users are 100% honest with their age. Simply confirming you are 18 gives you an easy end around the filtering of content. Even at 8-10 I had friends who were quite ambitious about getting their hands on porn and other material we weren't supposed to have. If the bar is simply lying about your age, I would say that's not a very good way to try and filter content from underage users.

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Post by game_the0ry »

I am disappointed that parents allow 13 year olds to have iphones + social media accounts.

The downsides have been well-documented. [1] Can we all collectively get together and say "no" to that stuff until like 18?

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI6rX96oYnY

Re: Instagram Recommends Sexual Videos to Accounts for 13-Year-Olds, Tests Show

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Post by fallingfrog »

pizzathyme wrote: post #22
rdtsc wrote: post #9

> In one clip that Instagram recommended to a test account identified as 13 years old, an adult performer promised to send a picture of her “chest bags” via direct message to anyone who commented on her video. Another flashed her genitalia at the camera. When it comes encryption and privacy the legislators just can't wait to jump in an "save the children", let's see how vigorous they are going to be investigating and…

The reason for the US government banning TikTok is not that TikTok is a worse product (it is superior). The reason is that it is a massive geopolitical risk. People often conflate these two.

How is it a risk?? Are the communists cackling with glee as they steal all those 30 second clips of teens doing the cinnamon challenge?

Re: Instagram Recommends Sexual Videos to Accounts for 13-Year-Olds, Tests Show

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Post by tennisflyi »

throwaway22032 wrote: post #19
cue_the_strings wrote: post #6

I'm genuinely curious, how old were you when you were first exposed to sexual content? I think I was like 7 or 8. Like, we had a channel ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTV_Palma ) publicly broadcasting porn after midnight (I don't remember watching that) and all the older (~15YO) kids around the neighborhood were collecting porn magazines from who knows where and hiding them around in "caches". I remember all the ol…

When I was younger porn was a properly seedy thing that people would consume but almost no-one knew anyone that 'did it'. Nowadays you have OnlyFans models or similar basically all over every social media platform, businesses trying to sell it as a legit lifestyle, etc. It's completely different, because it's becoming much more bidirectional and open now.

Porn and OF are not similar. Porn is more of a job and OF a lifestyle
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