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The the the the induction of jamais vu: word alienation and semantic satiation

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Re: The the the the induction of jamais vu: word alienation and semantic satiation

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When I worked in marketing software I experienced this often with the term "referral". To this day I still feel kindof weird when I see the term.

When I did a lot of web development I experienced something similar with the word "referer".

edit: fixed typo

Re: The the the the induction of jamais vu: word alienation and semantic satiation

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post #13

Is this what happens with words losing their entire meaning with propaganda? Not going to quote a specific word, but I live in a country that has gone into propaganda overdrive during the last few weeks and people who should know better (quite possibly including myself) are starting to use words to mean anything and their opposite.

No, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_and_the_English_Langu... is a good essay on the use of propaganda to destroy language, and the natural process with which it's bought into.

Re: The the the the induction of jamais vu: word alienation and semantic satiation

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post #4

We need the Oscars "In Memoriam" every year, but it's for words we lost to semantic satiation. Off the top of my head: iconic epic brilliant "blazingly fast" literally

This is about repeating the word many times in isolation of other words, not using an exaggeration for lesser things so the meaning drifts. I think everyone's familiar with it by trying to say the same word over and over again, it quickly becomes weird and seems to lose its meaning or even become hard to say.

GP is engaging in the iconic HN tradition of commenting something brilliant that has nothing to do with TFA. Literally seconds later, someone has to point out the epic failure. I've been reading HN for 17 years, and I must lament that it is turning "blazingly fast" into reddit. Because of people like me, I guess :)

Re: The the the the induction of jamais vu: word alienation and semantic satiation

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Related:

Why repeating a word makes it go weird - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39865690 - March 2024 (1 comment)

Is linguistic inflation insanely awesome? (2012) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31726534, https://web.archive.org/web/20230324130314/http://www.macmil... - June 2022 (3 comments)

Semantic Satiation - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26915742 - April 2021 (53 comments)

Re: The the the the induction of jamais vu: word alienation and semantic satiation

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I remember working on a Jasper report once where I had a bunch of column subtotals and a total of all of them. Total, total, total total...

Suddenly I locked up and was like "WTF is a total?" The word still sounds strange to me sometimes.

Re: The the the the induction of jamais vu: word alienation and semantic satiation

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When I worked in marketing software I experienced this often with the term "referral". To this day I still feel kindof weird when I see the term.

When I did a lot of web development I experienced something similar with the word "referer". edit: fixed typo

Are you thinking of referer? (A misspelling of referrer, present in HTTP headers.)

Re: The the the the induction of jamais vu: word alienation and semantic satiation

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There’s two phenomena that come to mind: 1) when I say the same word over and over and within a minute the word sounds and feels weird and wrong. 2) everyone overuses and exaggerates a word so much that it loses its power and meaning. Are these the same thing?

Malkovich malkovich malkovich, literally.

Re: The the the the induction of jamais vu: word alienation and semantic satiation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I did a lot of web development I experienced something similar with the word "referer". edit: fixed typo

Are you thinking of referer? (A misspelling of referrer, present in HTTP headers.)

Yes, referer, not referal, obviously, thanks!

Re: The the the the induction of jamais vu: word alienation and semantic satiation

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post #25

I remember working on a Jasper report once where I had a bunch of column subtotals and a total of all of them. Total, total, total total... Suddenly I locked up and was like "WTF is a total? " The word still sounds strange to me sometimes.

I seem to recall getting that feeling looking at a box of the cereal called Total.
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