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Re: Cyber Scarecrow

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post #4

Fun concept. If the creators read this, I suggest some ways of building trust. There’s no “about us”, no GitHub link, etc. It’s a random webpage that wants my personal details, and sends me a “exe”. The overlap of people who understand what this tool does, and people who would run that “exe” is pretty small.

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Re: Cyber Scarecrow

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Sounds like a very interesting concept. I'd like to see someone actually test this though.

Try running this on a Windows PC with Windows Defender off & just Scarecrow running. You could use the MaleX test kit [1] or a set of malware such as the Zoo collection [2] or something more current. I'd be very interested to see how many malware executables stop half way through their installation after seeing a few bogus registry entries/background programs running. I'm not trying to imply it's worthless, but it needs some actual "real world" test results.

[1] https://github.com/Mayachitra-Inc/MaleX [2] https://github.com/ytisf/theZoo

Re: Cyber Scarecrow

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I would assume there would be a small intersection of people that would download and install a windows program from an unknown web page and those that are worried about malware. But perhaps I'm wrong

I know people /plural/ that will happily download cracked antivirus software from a torrent site.

Re: Cyber Scarecrow

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post #4

Fun concept. If the creators read this, I suggest some ways of building trust. There’s no “about us”, no GitHub link, etc. It’s a random webpage that wants my personal details, and sends me a “exe”. The overlap of people who understand what this tool does, and people who would run that “exe” is pretty small.

A lot of security stuff is a bit ironic like that. "Give this antivirus software super-root access to your machine".. it depends on that software being trustworthy.

Re: Cyber Scarecrow

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Narrator: and so the arms race continues. I guess if this gets enough attention, malware will just add more sophisticated checks and not just look at the exe name. But on that note, I wondered the same thing at my last workplace where we'd only run windows in virtual machines. Sometimes these were quite outdated regarding system and browser updates, and some non-tech staff used them to browse random websites. They we…

> I guess if this gets enough attention, malware will just add more sophisticated checks and not just look at the exe name. But more sophisticated detection means bigger payload (making the malware easier to detect) and more complexity (making the malware harder to make / maintain), so mission accomplished.

Not by much. Probably less effort than you're putting in trying to avoid the malware, so it's a net loss.

Re: Cyber Scarecrow

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Lol, this website is registered to someone in Iceland, despite the assurance that it is a "security researcher living in the UK". I'm sure the results from this experiment will make a cool blog post about pwning tech savvy folks.

Re: Cyber Scarecrow

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post #4

Fun concept. If the creators read this, I suggest some ways of building trust. There’s no “about us”, no GitHub link, etc. It’s a random webpage that wants my personal details, and sends me a “exe”. The overlap of people who understand what this tool does, and people who would run that “exe” is pretty small.

Author of cyber scarecrow here. Thank you for your feedback, and you are 100% right. We also dont have a code signing certificate yet either, they are expensive for windows. Smartscreen also triggers when you install it. Id be weary of installing it myself as well, especially considering it runs as admin, to be able to create the fake indicators.

I have just added a bit of info about us on the website. I'm not sure what else we can do really. Its a trust thing, same with any software and AV vendors.

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