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Trading cards with e-ink displays (2023)

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Re: Trading cards with e-ink displays (2023)

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Post by xipho »

bluGill wrote: post #14
xipho wrote: post #10

Nice. I've thought of various similar applications (probably because I saw such somewhere). For example conferences require lanyards with passes attached. Most contract with some company to handle all their creation, then also require you (more or less) to use their app to get a schedule, etc. Why not create a generic, re-usable pass (like OP) that attaches to your lanyard, has some basic features at a glance (schedu…

Is this really better than physical cards? There are electronics here, and electronics tend to go obsolete fast. If the old one is obsolete in a year or two there was so little reuse that everyone is better off with old fashioned paper/plastic. You would have to commit to not coming up with a better model every year - but if you do that someone else will compete by coming out with the better model instead. Which is t…

I completely agree. Thinking more along the lines of- whether or not something is better may not drive a market, people loved Tamagotchi but vanilla stuffed animals last generations... but Tamagotchi still work for many.

Something that has dirt simple utility (you have a visual que that can be rotated that indicates to staff processing thousands of people an hour that you're payed) without requiring a phone that can do all that and more maybe be generically useful.

Re: Trading cards with e-ink displays (2023)

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Post by xipho »

edye wrote: post #15
xipho wrote: post #10

Nice. I've thought of various similar applications (probably because I saw such somewhere). For example conferences require lanyards with passes attached. Most contract with some company to handle all their creation, then also require you (more or less) to use their app to get a schedule, etc. Why not create a generic, re-usable pass (like OP) that attaches to your lanyard, has some basic features at a glance (schedu…

I know of CyberBadge from Poland, which is making a very primitive version of what you're describing. They don't have a screen, just an array of programmable led lights. People use them at events. https://cyberbadge.net/

Cool. Badges, commemorative pins, small tradable items are mainstays at cons, conferences etc., their market doesn't need to be created, it's their to be fed.

So make this type of thing work across time and you have created value to someone, which means a marketable product, at least in the Slashdot sense of ?, ?, 3... profit!.

Re: Trading cards with e-ink displays (2023)

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Post by xipho »

toyg wrote: post #19
xipho wrote: post #10

Nice. I've thought of various similar applications (probably because I saw such somewhere). For example conferences require lanyards with passes attached. Most contract with some company to handle all their creation, then also require you (more or less) to use their app to get a schedule, etc. Why not create a generic, re-usable pass (like OP) that attaches to your lanyard, has some basic features at a glance (schedu…

Have you heard of our lord and saviour the Pimoroni Badger? https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/badger-2040?variant=39752... I have one and it's awesome. They upgraded it recently with wifi: https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/badger-2040-w?variant=405... They have similarly-shaped stuff in color too, like the Tufty https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/tufty-2040?variant=400369... and the Inky https://shop.pimoroni.com/p…

This! Now make them required at conferences (easily done because professional societies), someone sell the service. We have to pay $600 just to go to present our papers, make it cost less by $50 if you come with your own.

I for one welcome our new badger overlords.

Re: Trading cards with e-ink displays (2023)

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Post by SiempreViernes »

xipho wrote: post #21
bluGill wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this really better than physical cards? There are electronics here, and electronics tend to go obsolete fast. If the old one is obsolete in a year or two there was so little reuse that everyone is better off with old fashioned paper/plastic. You would have to commit to not coming up with a better model every year - but if you do that someone else will compete by coming out with the better model instead. Which is t…

I completely agree. Thinking more along the lines of- whether or not something is better may not drive a market, people loved Tamagotchi but vanilla stuffed animals last generations... but Tamagotchi still work for many. Something that has dirt simple utility (you have a visual que that can be rotated that indicates to staff processing thousands of people an hour that you're payed) without requiring a phone that can…

If you try to sell something on the basis of "so they didn't add to their kilograms of plastic pass/lanyard waste", the question of whether it actually saves anything is clearly relevant.

I'm also confused why you think receipt that can be rotated is somehow a difference maker, have you ever encountered on that can't be?

Re: Trading cards with e-ink displays (2023)

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Post by oopsallmagic »

bluGill wrote: post #14
xipho wrote: post #10

Nice. I've thought of various similar applications (probably because I saw such somewhere). For example conferences require lanyards with passes attached. Most contract with some company to handle all their creation, then also require you (more or less) to use their app to get a schedule, etc. Why not create a generic, re-usable pass (like OP) that attaches to your lanyard, has some basic features at a glance (schedu…

Is this really better than physical cards? There are electronics here, and electronics tend to go obsolete fast. If the old one is obsolete in a year or two there was so little reuse that everyone is better off with old fashioned paper/plastic. You would have to commit to not coming up with a better model every year - but if you do that someone else will compete by coming out with the better model instead. Which is t…

Don't forget the e-waste aspect... You can recycle paper easily, but several rare earth metals and e-ink all mashed together are much more difficult, and require a lot more energy to produce.

Honestly, this is exactly the kind of overconsumption that got us to where we are. I don't care what someone's favorite emoji is, quite frankly, and I don't think it's worth strip mining the Congo just to do a Neat Thing. Use a printer, do it for the sake of your grandchildren's future.

Re: Trading cards with e-ink displays (2023)

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Post by parthianshotgun »

toyg wrote: post #16
lagniappe wrote: post #5

I don't have much business being in this thread but I wanted to add that I appreciate the inclusion of lesser-seen details like the sacred geometry in the board.

I personally find it creepy and offputting. I guess to each its own.

Why? Is it because it's esoteric, not meant for all?

Re: Trading cards with e-ink displays (2023)

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Post by oopsallmagic »

pazimzadeh wrote: post #12

This is really cool. Sorry to change the topic a bit, but I have been thinking about adapting something like this for a screen that you can place on your desk or work bench to use it as a physical "away message" so that people know where you are when you are not at your desk (i.e. @lunch, @meeting, @microscope, etc..) Ideally, it would connect to wifi so that you can update it remotely.

Can't you just put it on your calendar? Or use a sticky note? Bonus: a sticky note doesn't need a battery. Alternatively, your coworkers are adults, and can simply wait an hour for you to eat lunch. They won't go into hysterics if they can't find you.

Re: Trading cards with e-ink displays (2023)

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Post by johannes1234321 »

oopsallmagic wrote: post #25
bluGill wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this really better than physical cards? There are electronics here, and electronics tend to go obsolete fast. If the old one is obsolete in a year or two there was so little reuse that everyone is better off with old fashioned paper/plastic. You would have to commit to not coming up with a better model every year - but if you do that someone else will compete by coming out with the better model instead. Which is t…

Don't forget the e-waste aspect... You can recycle paper easily, but several rare earth metals and e-ink all mashed together are much more difficult, and require a lot more energy to produce. Honestly, this is exactly the kind of overconsumption that got us to where we are. I don't care what someone's favorite emoji is, quite frankly, and I don't think it's worth strip mining the Congo just to do a Neat Thing. Use a…

And then place a few crayons at the venue if you care about the smiley.

Re: Trading cards with e-ink displays (2023)

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Post by GuB-42 »

Just curious, is there really a "trading" aspect or is it more for deck-building type games?

Trading card games usually have a notion of rarity, collection, and, well, trading. It is a controversial aspect so I understand that you want to stay away from that as much as possible. But if you embrace this aspect, how would it be implemented?

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