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Re: Impulse Tracker source code now available on GitHub

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Post by lionkor »

dragonwriter wrote: post #17
netmare wrote: post #13

The Wikipedia entry on text-based user interfaces uses IT as an example of a text-mode program featuring a pixel-accurate mouse pointer. The "citation-needed" had always been annoying me, since I knew it was true, but I couldn't prove it. Now, we can finally link to IT_MOUSE.ASM and be done with it.

That seems like an analytical conclusion based on a primary source, and thus a violation of No Original Research policy if sourced directly to the primary source on which the conclusion is based, and not a published secondary source that actually provides the analysis of the primary source.

Just cite that HN comment above you then;)

Re: Impulse Tracker source code now available on GitHub

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Post by samatman »

sublinear wrote: post #18
diggan wrote: post #4

As far as I can tell, the LICENSE.TXT ( https://github.com/jthlim/impulse-tracker/blob/main/LICENSE.... ) is the 3-clause BSD license, meaning proper FOSS and not just "source available" which is becoming more popular. Bit more about the history of IT (and more) in the blogpost celebrating the "20th anniversary", written by the software's author: http://roartindon.blogspot.com/2014/02/20-years-of-impulse-t...

> Copyright © 2014, Jeffrey Lim. All Rights Reserved. I'm curious why "All Rights Reserved." was added. It may be obsolete, but if it was taken seriously today wouldn't it also be at odds with the BSD license?

Nope. "All rights reserved" is a term of art that predates © but means the exact same thing. One of those rights is the right to license the work as one sees fit.

Re: Impulse Tracker source code now available on GitHub

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Post by Dalewyn »

dragonwriter wrote: post #17
netmare wrote: post #13

The Wikipedia entry on text-based user interfaces uses IT as an example of a text-mode program featuring a pixel-accurate mouse pointer. The "citation-needed" had always been annoying me, since I knew it was true, but I couldn't prove it. Now, we can finally link to IT_MOUSE.ASM and be done with it.

That seems like an analytical conclusion based on a primary source, and thus a violation of No Original Research policy if sourced directly to the primary source on which the conclusion is based, and not a published secondary source that actually provides the analysis of the primary source.

One of Wikipedia's sourcing paradoxes is that the literal horse's mouth is the worst source as to be unusable.

Re: Impulse Tracker source code now available on GitHub

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Post by sen »

IT was probably one of the most influential pieces of software for me as a teenager. I can’t put into words how important it was to me as a way to escape a crappy life and just get lost in making music and sharing tracks on my local BBS, chatting to other people like me who I’d go on to meet and become life long friends with.

It will always hold a special place in my heart and I owe Jeffrey so much.

Re: Impulse Tracker source code now available on GitHub

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Post by polairscience »

Dalewyn wrote: post #24
dragonwriter wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That seems like an analytical conclusion based on a primary source, and thus a violation of No Original Research policy if sourced directly to the primary source on which the conclusion is based, and not a published secondary source that actually provides the analysis of the primary source.

One of Wikipedia's sourcing paradoxes is that the literal horse's mouth is the worst source as to be unusable.

I mean this as a genuine comment and not a political non-sequitor but we'll see how it lands. If you think that's a bad idea, can you imagine what Donald J. Trump's wiki page would look like if you allowed 'primary' sources? Or, really, any political figure. Though I think he makes a very good implicit case against allowing that.

Re: Impulse Tracker source code now available on GitHub

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Post by bane »

sen wrote: post #25

IT was probably one of the most influential pieces of software for me as a teenager. I can’t put into words how important it was to me as a way to escape a crappy life and just get lost in making music and sharing tracks on my local BBS, chatting to other people like me who I’d go on to meet and become life long friends with. It will always hold a special place in my heart and I owe Jeffrey so much.

Me too! I grew up very isolated in rural America and IT was a literal gateway into a global artistic movement that caused me to connect to people across the planet, develop a skill, and set me on a course into technology. I am forever in Jeffrey's debt.

Re: Impulse Tracker source code now available on GitHub

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Post by andrelaszlo »

omoikane wrote: post #16
WesolyKubeczek wrote: post #7

Sweet jesus, I knew IT had been written in assembly (and moreover, it looks like 8086-level assembly, with EMS support for memory expansion), but little did I knew it had support for networking! Granted, IPX, but still!

An interesting coincidence was that custom IPX usernames was a paid feature, and payment was processed by a company named "Kagi" (not the search engine). https://github.com/jthlim/impulse-tracker/blob/fb47b325454ab... Kagi the e-commerce site apparently went defunct in 2016: https://web.archive.org/web/20160915172120/http://kagi.com/

I thought you meant Kali until I checked the link.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_(software)

Re: Impulse Tracker source code now available on GitHub

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Post by ExxedOut »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #5

Nice! I was a Fast Tracker 2 guy back in the day. More recently I've played with OpenMPT and MilkyTracker (both of which I packaged for PortableApps.com) with my old MODs. I love seeing older stuff get properly open sourced. Impulse Tracker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impulse_Tracker Fast Tracker 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FastTracker_2

Thanks for milky on portable apps! Use it all the time

Re: Impulse Tracker source code now available on GitHub

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Post by trashburger »

polairscience wrote: post #26
Dalewyn wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of Wikipedia's sourcing paradoxes is that the literal horse's mouth is the worst source as to be unusable.

I mean this as a genuine comment and not a political non-sequitor but we'll see how it lands. If you think that's a bad idea, can you imagine what Donald J. Trump's wiki page would look like if you allowed 'primary' sources? Or, really, any political figure. Though I think he makes a very good implicit case against allowing that.

"Original research"/primary sources should not matter for facts, i.e. those laid out as actual code.

(It didn't land well.)

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