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Boeing's Starliner Now Has 5 Leaks While Parked Outside the ISS

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Re: Boeing's Starliner Now Has 5 Leaks While Parked Outside the ISS

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Post by et-al »

OutOfHere wrote: post #15
WheatMillington wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a big old "citation needed". As far as I'm aware that's a crackpot conspiracy theory - just because some fringe lunatic alleges something is enough to honestly decribe that something as "alleged".

It is not a fringe theory. It is quite mainstream. Boeing is ostensibly "protected from above" due to their military and space contracts, but as we're seeing with Starliner, such contracts are proving to be a liability.

I love a good conspiracy theory, but you need to link to some articles about the video cameras.

Re: Boeing's Starliner Now Has 5 Leaks While Parked Outside the ISS

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Post by ls612 »

shiroiushi wrote: post #19
thot_experiment wrote: post #18

If it's a Boeing I'm not going.

I don't mind flying on a well-tested 777 (i.e. one that's been in service for years). It's a great design from before Boeing really went down the shitter, and is probably the backbone of most carrier's long-haul intercontinental fleets today. But there's no way I'd fly as an astronaut on Starliner. I have very little confidence it won't have a catastrophic failure, considering how Boeing's been doing things lately.

787 is also a well tested safe design which was designed after those nasty MBAs took over. 11 years and counting without a hull loss gives me confidence flying across the ocean on one of them.

Re: Boeing's Starliner Now Has 5 Leaks While Parked Outside the ISS

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Post by protocolture »

nomel wrote: post #12
Havoc wrote: post #8

That’s terrifying

No it's not. > While Starliner is docked, all the manifolds are closed per normal mission operations preventing helium loss from the tanks, > “We can handle this particular leak if that leak rate were to grow even up to 100 times,”

Its terrifying that the build quality is so poor due to the issues we have seen.

The helium leak is obviously acceptable, but this thing is meant to return humans to the surface, can we trust that it wont have issues in other areas?

Re: Boeing's Starliner Now Has 5 Leaks While Parked Outside the ISS

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Post by hedora »

ls612 wrote: post #22
shiroiushi wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't mind flying on a well-tested 777 (i.e. one that's been in service for years). It's a great design from before Boeing really went down the shitter, and is probably the backbone of most carrier's long-haul intercontinental fleets today. But there's no way I'd fly as an astronaut on Starliner. I have very little confidence it won't have a catastrophic failure, considering how Boeing's been doing things lately.

787 is also a well tested safe design which was designed after those nasty MBAs took over. 11 years and counting without a hull loss gives me confidence flying across the ocean on one of them.

The 777 has killed one and injured 104 passengers this year, and the 787 has injured 50. Are you and the parent comment missing a /s?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Airlines_Flight_32...

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/12/australia/latam-airlines-flig...

Re: Boeing's Starliner Now Has 5 Leaks While Parked Outside the ISS

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Post by OutOfHere »

et-al wrote: post #21
OutOfHere wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not a fringe theory. It is quite mainstream. Boeing is ostensibly "protected from above" due to their military and space contracts, but as we're seeing with Starliner, such contracts are proving to be a liability.

I love a good conspiracy theory, but you need to link to some articles about the video cameras.

I apologize, but although I remember reading it, I can't seem to find the article about the video. I have retracted (edited out) the unsubstantiated claim. It does leave the question open though: "where is the video" (if there was one)? As per news articles, an employee claims to have heard a pop at 9:24 am, but that's all we know.

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Post by xeornet »

hedora wrote: post #24
ls612 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

787 is also a well tested safe design which was designed after those nasty MBAs took over. 11 years and counting without a hull loss gives me confidence flying across the ocean on one of them.

The 777 has killed one and injured 104 passengers this year, and the 787 has injured 50. Are you and the parent comment missing a /s? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Airlines_Flight_32... https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/12/australia/latam-airlines-flig...

Both of those incidents have a total of zero percent relation to the aircraft being Boeing or its design.

The CNN article is wrong, it was since found the seat move switch was pushed and interfered with flight controls.

The 777 was severe turbulence. The death was a heart attack.

Lol…

Re: Boeing's Starliner Now Has 5 Leaks While Parked Outside the ISS

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Post by [deleted] »

hedora wrote: post #24
ls612 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

787 is also a well tested safe design which was designed after those nasty MBAs took over. 11 years and counting without a hull loss gives me confidence flying across the ocean on one of them.

The 777 has killed one and injured 104 passengers this year, and the 787 has injured 50. Are you and the parent comment missing a /s? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Airlines_Flight_32... https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/12/australia/latam-airlines-flig...

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Re: Boeing's Starliner Now Has 5 Leaks While Parked Outside the ISS

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Post by hehdhdjehehegwv »

leoh wrote: post #20

We really still sure this whole decompression sickness thing was just a “simulation”? https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/nasa-accidentally-b...

I read that article earlier, but it didn’t mention Boeing so I wasn’t questioning it.

But where Boeing goes, bad things follow.

Re: Boeing's Starliner Now Has 5 Leaks While Parked Outside the ISS

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Post by czl »

gwill wrote: post #9

are these actually scary leaks? in the article they say they'd be fine even if the leak were 100x the size.

You purchased an airplane. How would you feel when on the solo flight home you begin to hear odd sounds "under the hood"? The plane may still be flying ok but might you wonder for how much longer? It is not the noise that's the problem but rather what that noise predicts.
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