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OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by threeseed »

behnamoh wrote: post #9

Lots of negative comments about Oracle. If they're so bad, how come PMs and higher ups keep choosing them? Is there no resistance voice from engineers? Edit: I'm getting downvoted by engineers. I guess they have to vent somehow... How about take your downvote to the PM who's going to sign a new Oracle contract?

Used to work at Oracle. They keep winning deals because at the C-level it's about:

- enterprise-grade features

- completeness of vision

- long term viability

- dependable support

- availability of talent

And no, normally they don't want to hear from engineers.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by renewiltord »

crowcroft wrote: post #10
Someone1234 wrote: post #4

Oracle Cloud is a bad product and I wouldn't recommend. I'm guessing Oracle practically gifted OpenAI compute to make this possible and that this announcement is the whole purpose (i.e. "look at us, we're equal to AWS/Azure!!! OpenAI runs here!!!"). Oracle and Google Cloud have been doing this stuff constantly .

I've found Oracle's free tier quite generous. I guess OpenAI does as well.

Yeah, I use their free tier. At $0 it's the best offering. But I end up with racknerd for just raw Linux machine that I manage myself with `iptables` and friends.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by pubg »

Lots of shade being thrown, I'm surprised at all the toxic bile. All cloud providers are fundamentally in a race to the bottom for commoditization of compute infrastructure. The competition should be desirable.

Anyhow, if I had to guess why ClosedAI made this decision, well there are lots of big companies who like Oracle Cloud because if the spend is sufficient, Oracle will literally build and then support whatever configurations you want in any region across the entire globe. Good luck getting that level of care from AWS, Azure, or Goggle.

In my experience OCI is still better than GCP, not that it's really saying much, AWS has been the "best" IME :)

Clouds can't love you back.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by dsr_ »

sourcecodeplz wrote: post #19
behnamoh wrote: post #9

Lots of negative comments about Oracle. If they're so bad, how come PMs and higher ups keep choosing them? Is there no resistance voice from engineers? Edit: I'm getting downvoted by engineers. I guess they have to vent somehow... How about take your downvote to the PM who's going to sign a new Oracle contract?

I think it is because they are significantly cheaper than the alternatives.

Oracle? Oracle is the most expensive at everything.

There were consultants specializing in optimizing Oracle bills way before they existed for AWS.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by tuckerconnelly »

pubg wrote: post #23

Lots of shade being thrown, I'm surprised at all the toxic bile. All cloud providers are fundamentally in a race to the bottom for commoditization of compute infrastructure. The competition should be desirable. Anyhow, if I had to guess why ClosedAI made this decision, well there are lots of big companies who like Oracle Cloud because if the spend is sufficient, Oracle will literally build and then support whatever c…

What are your gripes with GCP? I've been using it for every project for a while, and am super happy with it, especially GKE.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by bavell »

pubg wrote: post #23

Lots of shade being thrown, I'm surprised at all the toxic bile. All cloud providers are fundamentally in a race to the bottom for commoditization of compute infrastructure. The competition should be desirable. Anyhow, if I had to guess why ClosedAI made this decision, well there are lots of big companies who like Oracle Cloud because if the spend is sufficient, Oracle will literally build and then support whatever c…

6+ years on GCP across half a dozen kubernetes clusters here... very little to complain about IME. Have fun with Oracle.

Re: OpenAI Selects Oracle Cloud Infrastructure to Extend Microsoft Azure AI Platform

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Post by pubg »

tuckerconnelly wrote: post #26
pubg wrote: post #23

Lots of shade being thrown, I'm surprised at all the toxic bile. All cloud providers are fundamentally in a race to the bottom for commoditization of compute infrastructure. The competition should be desirable. Anyhow, if I had to guess why ClosedAI made this decision, well there are lots of big companies who like Oracle Cloud because if the spend is sufficient, Oracle will literally build and then support whatever c…

What are your gripes with GCP? I've been using it for every project for a while, and am super happy with it, especially GKE.

Maybe you weren't burned by the near periodic massive GCP outages from 2019 - 2023. More power to you, but I'm not signing up for more of that.
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