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Australian Border Force searched phones of 10k travellers in past two years

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Re: Australian Border Force searched phones of 10k travellers in past two years

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Easy solution: Travel with a burner phone.

Just make sure you use it for a few days before hand so it doesn't appear to be a burner phone, lest you be considered suspicious and remanded for additional interrogation.

My company requires us to use a "burner" phone and laptop when we travel internationally. I can helpfully print out the policy from the employee handbook and show it to the border guard. I'm not sure that's considered as suspicious as you think absent any other suspicious behaviors.

Re: Australian Border Force searched phones of 10k travellers in past two years

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> The department data reveals that close to 94% of the time people freely revealed their phone passcode to officers, despite there being no legal requirement to do so. There really needs to be better education in civics. It's so important to know your rights, especially when someone in a position of authority tries to abuse that authority.

This one is tricky. You just don't have the same rights when trying to enter a country as you do if you're stopped by the police. Border officials have the power to deny you entry and generally there's very little recourse if they do. This makes you way more vulnerable and likely to cooperate than you would, say, during a routine traffic stop.

Re: Australian Border Force searched phones of 10k travellers in past two years

#23

Easy solution: Travel with a burner phone.

That's a very loose definition of "easy"

Use whatever word you like better. Straightforward, Simple, uncomplicated not difficult.

Seriously, set up a new phone, new number, new Gmail account, new IG/FB accounts, use them a week before you leave- tell your friends "Follow me here for my trip!" and have your phone number forwawrded. Put a few contacts in it. Done. Not a big deal at all for most technically competent people. That's us, right?

Re: Australian Border Force searched phones of 10k travellers in past two years

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post #2

> The department data reveals that close to 94% of the time people freely revealed their phone passcode to officers, despite there being no legal requirement to do so. There really needs to be better education in civics. It's so important to know your rights, especially when someone in a position of authority tries to abuse that authority.

Does it apply to non-citizens? As far as I know, in the US you can politely decline a phone search if you are a US citizen. If you're a foreign tourist your only choice is either to allow the search or be denied entry to the Land of Freedom™ How does it work in Australia?

As the article states, they can take your phone and try to hack it, but they can't otherwise punish you for refusing to give them your password.

Re: Australian Border Force searched phones of 10k travellers in past two years

#27
Story time: when I worked at Google we had a specific policy for traveling to and from China. IIRC it went something like this:

1. You absolutely aren't allowed to take your regular phone and laptop;

2. You will be given loaner devices to take into China;

3. If you're asked to open such devices on entry, comply and then, when you can, inform IT;

4. Once you got back, I'm not sure what happened to those devices. I believe they were in the very least wiped. They may even have been destroyed in certain circumstances (eg if a border official examined the open device). But that's speculation.

I never travelled to China so never used this. A colleague who regularly traveled to China told me some stories about this.

But yes it does seem prudent to wipe your device and restore when you land. Then again, border officials can also deny you entry with very little justification so who knows?

Re: Australian Border Force searched phones of 10k travellers in past two years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the point the article makes, you are _not_ legally required to hand over the password. > Officers routinely ask travellers to provide their passcode or password to devices so they can be examined, but they do not have the power to compel passengers to hand over their passcodes,

Right, and grandparent has a typo. True you are not required to hand over the password, but they aren't required to give you back your phone if you don't.

> There is no limit on how long the devices can be held but the agency said the policy was to keep devices for no longer than 14 days unless it took longer to examine them.

Re: Australian Border Force searched phones of 10k travellers in past two years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Phone searches at borders have nothing to do with the COVID.

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Phone searches at borders have been common, all around the world (and in Australia), way before COVID existed.

https://i.nextmedia.com.au/Assets/fa-220200502-document-rele...

Re: Australian Border Force searched phones of 10k travellers in past two years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a very loose definition of "easy"

Use whatever word you like better. Straightforward, Simple, uncomplicated not difficult. Seriously, set up a new phone, new number, new Gmail account, new IG/FB accounts, use them a week before you leave- tell your friends "Follow me here for my trip!" and have your phone number forwawrded. Put a few contacts in it. Done. Not a big deal at all for most technically competent people. That's us, right?

I have been trying to create a facebook account recently, for work, I didn't use my real name (I just needed a facebook account to follow some pages). I got flagged and now have to provide additional proof of identity. Same for IG. I don't think it's as easy as before to create a temp. facebook account. After setting it up you need to feed it right.
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