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Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by hunter2_ »

josephcsible wrote: post #18
myaccountonhn wrote: post #16

I always feel like these password solutions are there to lock you into their platform. I would never use Apples nor Mozillas password solutions personally.

That's a great reason to not use Apple's, but Mozilla's doesn't lock you in at all.

The way Google's password manager covers websites anywhere I'm logged into Chrome plus native Android apps anywhere I'm logged into Google Play is super convenient though (albeit total lock-in, I won't argue that). Some apps are even developed well enough that a password originally stored via Chrome will be suggested for the app, I guess by cross-referencing the origins in some mutual way. And payment card details will auto-fill pretty smoothly in a very similar way, as well.

It's fantastic, and for some reason I trust OS/browser developers to do this more safely than a company focused on password management that has to figure out OS APIs, write browser extensions, or rely on a clipboard that has nearly unbounded read access.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by willis936 »

MaxBarraclough wrote: post #5

Surprised to see Forget LastPass , as if it's the current incumbent. It very much isn't, at least in my perception. LastPass disgraced itself into irrelevance back in 2022. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LastPass#2022_customer_data_an...

You wouldn't want to give free publicity to a serious competitor like btiwarden, 1password, or keepass.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by denimnerd42 »

bee_rider wrote: post #20

I don’t quite understand how this will be different from what built in iPhone password manager. Something I’d really like: let my iPhone act as a Bluetooth (obviously encryption will be necessary!) or USB keyboard, and have it hold my passwords/type them. That way I could keep my passwords all in one place, and manage them locally. Currently I use keepass when not on iOS, which is fine, but I don’t really want to hav…

The offline device with a plugin usb keyboard that "types" in your username and password is exactly what i've wanted forever. There are some devices people have made and posted online. I made a POC with an old android phone once but never got past that stage.

I investigated the bluetooth encryption and it didn't really seem up to the task. You could create a dongle that lived on wifi though that would do the same.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by smsm42 »

nullindividual wrote: post #19
ein0p wrote: post #12

This needs to be multiplatform for it to be a viable option for the more tech inclined. I run all three major desktop operating systems plus iOS, so I use Bitwarden

It is available across the two major desktop operating systems, but you'd have to read the article to find that out. > The Passwords app is free to download, available across iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and MacOS 15, and will also work with the Vision Pro and Windows computers, says Apple.

No Linux or Android, which makes it useless for anybody having any devices running those. And since nobody wants to use two password managers, it remains a better solution to use a truly multi-platform one.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by kstrauser »

myaccountonhn wrote: post #16

I always feel like these password solutions are there to lock you into their platform. I would never use Apples nor Mozillas password solutions personally.

I used 1Password for years. Last year I decided to try out Apple's built-in manager (for which this new app is a pretty frontend for a feature that already existed). I was able to export all my passwords out of 1P and import them into 1P. Then my company gave us all free personal 1P accounts, and I decided to migrate back. I exported all my data out of Apple's password manager and imported it 1Password, then ran a script to de-dupe entries.

There's not much else to add: it just worked. I wish all "lock in" were that open.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by nerdjon »

Yeah there is a pretty good chance that once this rolls out I won't be using 1Password anymore.

I only use 1Password instead of native because I needed something that worked on Windows. Will need to see how well that works, but I just don't see a personal reason why I would not just use this when it works so much better on my iOS devices.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by noprocrasted »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #9
astrodust wrote: post #4

It's good to see that 1Password is staying several steps ahead here to avoid being "Sherlocked" by Apple. The new SSH key manager feature is an example of something Apple's unlikely to address for years, if ever. https://developer.1password.com/docs/ssh/manage-keys/

I really tried to like their new non-native app, and if it works well I could probably live with it, but it was so buggy and glitchy, even to the point where browser auto-fill often just... wouldn't. That's a basic feature. I switched to iCloud Passwords a few months ago and I'm very happy with the product. Looks like this Passwords app is a nice new GUI over the top of that same database.

I stick to 1Password 7 for that reason - thankfully it still works for the time being.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by avree »

willis936 wrote: post #22
MaxBarraclough wrote: post #5

Surprised to see Forget LastPass , as if it's the current incumbent. It very much isn't, at least in my perception. LastPass disgraced itself into irrelevance back in 2022. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LastPass#2022_customer_data_an...

You wouldn't want to give free publicity to a serious competitor like btiwarden, 1password, or keepass.

1Password is still around? I used to love it, then they changed the app, pricing schema, UX, and generally made things worse overall.
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