Mitch McConnell: We Cannot Repeat the Mistakes of the 1930s

Post by dctoedt » Thu, Jun 06, 2024, 11:53 PM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #11

wumeow wrote: post #8

> Some vocal corners of the American right are trying to resurrect the discredited brand of prewar isolationism and deny the basic value of the alliance system that has kept the postwar peace. By “some on the right “ you mean your presidential candidate and most of your party.

Not to mention most liberals until five minutes ago. If you had told me twenty years ago that supposed democrats were agreeing with Mitch McConnell and acting out Team America World Police, I wouldn’t have believed you. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0372588/ .

Post by sdwr » Fri, Jun 07, 2024, 3:05 AM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #22

dctoedt wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not to mention most liberals until five minutes ago. Some fringe leftists are isolationists, to be sure. Liberals? No.

The mainstream liberal position back when I was a Democrat is that America’s policing of the world was a bad thing. The movie “Team America: World Police” reflected the sentiment of Jon Stewart watching younger Democrats. Stanning for NATO and “our allies” was for evil neocons like Bush and Cheney.

Post by dctoedt » Fri, Jun 07, 2024, 10:02 PM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #24

sdwr wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"policing of the world" is already politically fraught. The classic leftist argument is that America entered unjust foreign wars for political points / foreign resources / dick waving.

Leftists don’t think we entered Vietnam or Korea for resources. And when I was a mainstream young liberal in the 1990s and early oughts, the complaint was about why we have “military bases around the world.” That wasn’t because we thought those were for extracting resources.