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Twitch removes every member of its Safety Advisory Council

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Re: Twitch removes every member of its Safety Advisory Council

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Post by cqqxo4zV46cp »

nubinetwork wrote: post #8
artninja1988 wrote: post #4

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It seems like you haven't been on twitch for a while. The IRL section seems like a funnel for only fans for the model part

Twitch seems quite content with being a front for onlyfans. They recently started blurring stream thumbnails, and have never cared about linktree/etc links despite them being used as a "hide it under the carpet" for onlyfans as well. (Direct links bad, a link to a link is okay though?) They may as well stop pretending and fully allow adult content, because it's pretty obvious that these streamers will keep pushing th…

“Allowing adult content” is easier said than done for any organisation. This is incredibly common knowledge at this point. For example, orgs dealing with adult content need to work a little bit differently. Some employees may just be personally uncomfortable with being around “big titty goth gfs” all day every day, and their job might change to require it. Internal HR disputes can also become more complicated, as lines of appropriate behaviour can ever so slightly blur. I’m sure there are a hundred other things that I haven’t thought of. The part that’s common knowledge is that payment processing becomes orders of magnitude more precarious and complicated. Anyone who was paying attention to this area remembers what happened to OnlyFans itself recently, where they were running out of ways to make payments work.

This is all ignoring what Twitch would be giving up by embracing this. What’d be the impact of the negative optics when it comes to parents? Do they stop letting their kids on Twitch? How important is that to their bottom line? What about the consoles / platforms that have a Twitch integration? Is that now seen as an endorsement of or gateway to adult content that the platform owners didn’t sign up for?

Even if Twitch were actually able to pull that off, there’s a whole lot on the line, and certainly market segments that they know that they’d be saying goodbye to.

Re: Twitch removes every member of its Safety Advisory Council

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Post by kevinventullo »

zer00eyz wrote: post #13
demondemidi wrote: post #9

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Or be harassed. But that doesn’t matter when you’re in the majority, right?

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I think the point of deplatforming is not to change their mind, but to prevent their voice from influencing others.

Re: Twitch removes every member of its Safety Advisory Council

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Post by newswasboring »

zer00eyz wrote: post #13
demondemidi wrote: post #9

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Or be harassed. But that doesn’t matter when you’re in the majority, right?

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Platforming them also doesn't seem to be bringing about any change though. Your argument assumes this fantasy that they will have a dialogue. That's just not what happened, they just make their own echo chambers inside the platforms. These platforms are literally optimized for community building. Banning and deplatforming achieves mental peace for people who just want to go to twitch and not be bombarded by literal nazis.

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Post by threeseed »

worthless-trash wrote: post #18
zer00eyz wrote: post #13

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Thanks, this is something that I believe too. You rarely 'solve' an issue by making it hidden. At least in the open, you can see the danger.

This is simply not true.

When you tolerate things such as child pornography, doxxing etc it makes the practice appear sanctioned and encourages others to join in. We saw this quite clearly with Reddit and Twitter.

Re: Twitch removes every member of its Safety Advisory Council

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Post by zer00eyz »

newswasboring wrote: post #25
zer00eyz wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Platforming them also doesn't seem to be bringing about any change though. Your argument assumes this fantasy that they will have a dialogue. That's just not what happened, they just make their own echo chambers inside the platforms. These platforms are literally optimized for community building. Banning and deplatforming achieves mental peace for people who just want to go to twitch and not be bombarded by literal n…

This works great.

Where do you fall on Israel vs Gaza? Does your platform let you speak freely? Is there a chilling effect due to fear of getting banned? I can say the words Tavistock here and guarantee that I will get downvoted just for mentioning it.

Shoving it off into a dark corner doesn't make it go away. IT makes people ignorant to the fact that it's going on.

Re: Twitch removes every member of its Safety Advisory Council

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Post by Ekaros »

tivert wrote: post #10
stale2002 wrote: post #5

For those who are not aware, the safety council was not the trust and safety team that handles bans. Instead, this was a small group of livestreamers and community representatives that meet once a month or so, and give their personal opinion on proposed changes that Twitch brings to them. It was glorified user research.

> It was glorified user research. It doesn't sound like it was just that: > The Safety Advisory Council's members include Dr. Sameer Hinduja, co-director of the Cyber Bullying Research Center, and Dr. T.L. Taylor, the co-founder and director of AnyKey, an organization that advocates for inclusion and diversity in video games and esports. There's also Emma Llansó, the director of the Free Expression Project for the Ce…

Sounds to me like extensive bribing problem. These are exactly type of of people who use bad PR as as tool for their totalitarian worldviews.
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