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The Case Against Gmail (2020)

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Re: The Case Against Gmail (2020)

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I use my own domain for all email, but as I age, something that has started to concern me is the longevity of email going to my domain. No-one in my family is very tech-savvy so it's entirely possible they don't know to renew my domain and will end up losing all my incoming email as a result. In this sort of scenario, a big provider like Gmail which will clearly outlast me seems more reliable to pass on this account. Has anyone formulated a plan for someone inheriting your email account?

Re: The Case Against Gmail (2020)

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> We believe, any entity having access to so much personal information is a great risk to world peace, freedom and democracy. I often seen privacy advocates make sweeping statements like this, but I have a hard time understanding their concerns because I haven't really gotten an answer as to how they see it happening. EDIT: Also to be clear, I think it is completely valid to object to data collection on moral / ethic…

An example of how this could play out is how easily Google and other big tech cooperate with government requests nowadays (compared to, say, a decade or so ago, when Apple was openly fighting the FBI in court to not be forced to make a tool to unlock locked iPhones).

It allows the government to censor things without having to explicitly deal with legal challenges, and in exchange the company gets good will and favors holding back regulation. That easily leads into things like election manipulation.

There's also the massive target it paints on their back in terms of data breaches.

There are also other things to consider. IIRC with one of the NSA related leaks, there was the story of employees abusing the data collection for personal purposes. Private companies have even less oversight towards the public on how the data is being used.

Re: The Case Against Gmail (2020)

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The case FOR gmail: 1. it solved spam 2. it solved finding specific emails in the haystack of your years/decades of emails It's hard to overstate how important 1 is, for anyone who doesn't know how mail was 20 years ago. Google was able to leverage its dominance (in concert with the other huge hosts like Hotmail) to impose significant changes to email infrastructure, by requiring stuff like SPF and DKIM. Frankly, oth…

Also: more than 5MB storage

migadu's basic plan includes 50gb of storage.

Re: The Case Against Gmail (2020)

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I see the risk to be pretty minimal as most of my emails are sales, selling stuff to me. My assumption is that, it would be the case for many people. I'm curious if there are any stats around that.

I still wanted to have an email on my own personal domain. I use Fastmail and been pretty happy with it.

Re: The Case Against Gmail (2020)

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post #7

The case against gmail is very simple for me: - I need to own the domain name to make sure mail is sent to my property. - Gmail for is a paid service for custome domain names. - Why would I pay for an advertising service?

Why do you think you'd be paying for an advertising service in this scenario?

- Gmail doesn't show ads to Workspace users.

- Your emails aren't used for ad targeting, whether it's a Workspace account or a normal Gmail one.

Re: The Case Against Gmail (2020)

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How much safer is "owning" your domain? An anecdote: A few years ago I used to have my own domain. Then one day my credit card expired, the new one did not work and my account got frozen. I fixed it, then I forgot to actually extend the domain and it stopped working. Of course, no incoming email, no access to my old mail, etc. Fortunately I could buy the domain again after a couple of weeks of time, so it did not end…

But at least you can do something yourself.

If Google bans your account for whatever reason you can do nothing.

Re: The Case Against Gmail (2020)

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post #4

As a (paying) Migadu customer, I’d happily recommend them. No fuss, no muss. Just e-mail.

To be fair, this is 99% of users' experience with Gmail. Just email.

Yes, but Migadu is subject to Swiss privacy law, since they’re located here. They can’t (legally) do what Google does.

Re: The Case Against Gmail (2020)

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It has solved enterprise SSO for large swaths of the modern SaaS tool landscape.

People don’t remember how much fun it was to integrate ActiveDirectory into anything before ubiquitous G-Suite/Workspace logins. Or deal with dozens of external accounts for hundreds of users at a company. Easily a blocker for any startup trying to sell to bigger clients.

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