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Man scammed after AI told him fake Facebook customer support number was real

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Re: Man scammed after AI told him fake Facebook customer support number was real

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This one is pretty bad. This guy found a fake Facebook customer support phone number in a Google search, then asked the Meta AI chat in Facebook Messenger if the number he found was a real Facebook help line... and Meta AI said that it was. There's a screenshot of the chat in the article.

I wonder if he has a legal claim like the Air Canada passenger who the AI quoted a ficticious reimbursement policy.

Re: Man scammed after AI told him fake Facebook customer support number was real

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This does not add up. How did the Meta CS scammer get in to the PayPal account?

>The woman [from fake tech support] said she would clear the hackers out, but he had to give her access to his phone through an app she had him download.

That doesn't answer the question. No app on any Android or iPhone phone can reach out and take your PayPal credentials. These scam victims never own up to the most important fact - that they themselves give away the keys to the castle. There's always some hand-wavy techy explanation.

Re: Man scammed after AI told him fake Facebook customer support number was real

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As a millenial, I'm more amazed that someone willingly uses a phone for non-mandatory and not-burningly-urgent phonecalls... why on earth would anyone do that is way beyond me.

As a millennial I think voice calls sometimes are great. It obviously doesn't always work with big orgs like Facebook, but because so many people are now so afraid of or annoyed by just talking to a real person for a few minutes it's become a real power move to sometimes just go through the minor effort to make a call and expect some sort of immediacy to get things moving quickly. Email or text can be easily ignored and punted off (ex "whoops I didn't see it"), and increases the odds of miscommunication or having things be dragged out going back and forth.

Re: Man scammed after AI told him fake Facebook customer support number was real

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Re: Man scammed after AI told him fake Facebook customer support number was real

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As a millenial, I'm more amazed that someone willingly uses a phone for non-mandatory and not-burningly-urgent phonecalls... why on earth would anyone do that is way beyond me.

AI has kind of fucked this, but for me (also millenial) I prefer to speak to real people because they are intelligent beings with roughly the same motivations as me and usually want to help out their fellow man. For example, I can call a local store and ask "hi, do you have this item in stock, can you check on the shelf and set it aside for me please, I will be there in 25 mins". By contrast stuff like "click and col…

> I prefer to speak to real people

Thanks to AI, you will speak to who you think is a "real person"...

I remember, some time ago, some scammer tried to get my wife to address an "urgent bank issue."

What tipped her off, was how incredibly good their "tech support" was.

Re: Man scammed after AI told him fake Facebook customer support number was real

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Seems like this information came from Quora: https://www.quora.com/Is-1-844-457-1420-really-Facebook-supp... . Screenshot: https://postimg.cc/gallery/2nFq5Cm . I suspect the helpful SEO guy who posted this answer was trying to get more visibility on Quora so answered many questions automatically or semi-automatically without verifying anything. This is the beginning of the post: Ruhul Alom Social Media Marketer at So…

The "helpful SEO guy" likely is (or was hired by) the scammer.

StackOverflow gets lots of fake posts like this promoting numbers. Around tax time there's a lot of Quicken ones.

Re: Man scammed after AI told him fake Facebook customer support number was real

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI has kind of fucked this, but for me (also millenial) I prefer to speak to real people because they are intelligent beings with roughly the same motivations as me and usually want to help out their fellow man. For example, I can call a local store and ask "hi, do you have this item in stock, can you check on the shelf and set it aside for me please, I will be there in 25 mins". By contrast stuff like "click and col…

> I prefer to speak to real people Thanks to AI, you will speak to who you think is a "real person"... I remember, some time ago, some scammer tried to get my wife to address an "urgent bank issue." What tipped her off, was how incredibly good their "tech support" was.

Yeah, indeed.

Time to go outside more :)

Re: Man scammed after AI told him fake Facebook customer support number was real

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post #10

> What he didn't know at the time is there is no phone number for Facebook customer support. Part of the problem here is that Facebook (though in fairness, they are not unique here) has left this traditional path of escalation void, leaving only fake numbers. They don't even have a real number to play a recorded message affirming that there is no ability to call. ETA: For instance, I notice Facebook appears to own th…

It’s untenable from a marketing perspective to advertise a phone line that just talks about the services you don’t offer. One could maybe hope for a statement on a help page that says “Facebook will never ask you to call a support number”.

Re: Man scammed after AI told him fake Facebook customer support number was real

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The woman [from fake tech support] said she would clear the hackers out, but he had to give her access to his phone through an app she had him download.

That doesn't answer the question. No app on any Android or iPhone phone can reach out and take your PayPal credentials. These scam victims never own up to the most important fact - that they themselves give away the keys to the castle. There's always some hand-wavy techy explanation.

Easy enough to drop a remote access app or a fake Paypal app and let the idiot user put their credential into it.

Re: Man scammed after AI told him fake Facebook customer support number was real

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post #5

This one is pretty bad. This guy found a fake Facebook customer support phone number in a Google search, then asked the Meta AI chat in Facebook Messenger if the number he found was a real Facebook help line... and Meta AI said that it was. There's a screenshot of the chat in the article.

This reminds me of that recent issue with a Canadian airline, where (IIRC) a court ruled that their chatbot made a wrong, but binding, commitment to a customer. I'm curious if a Canadian court would hold Meta liable for the man's losses in this case as well.

Yea, it’s certainly a reasonable argument if the wrong information comes from the company itself.
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