It’s another nail in the coffin of consumer hardware startups. In addition to CE and waste issues now comes a requirement for repairability. Only the big guys with departments of clerks can launch a product nowadays.
EU countries must implement right to repair laws within two years
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Re: EU countries must implement right to repair laws within two years
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Professional repairs are the ones lobbying for right to repair laws? Do you have proof for this outlandish claim?
The most vocal person behind the right to repair movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npd_xDuNi9k Oh, and he runs a professional repair shop...
Louis is outspokenly against professional certification for repairs...
Re: EU countries must implement right to repair laws within two years
#23I think monopoly laws should be used to combat this problem instead. "Repair of apple devices" is a market with many participants, including apple itself. If Apple uses its power in the "design and manufacture of apple devices" market to unfairly influence its position in the "repair of apple products" market, then that should be illegal and they should be fined for it. An example would be software locking serial num…
By the way, software locking serial numbers of all the internal components was purportedly done for anti-theft reasons.
If you can't swap the screen or battery from a stolen phone to another phone, then there is much less reason to steal phones.
Buuut, another approach would be for Apple to simply pop up a dialogue whenever parts are swapped saying "New Part Detected. Some parts of this phone are registered with another icloud account 'mary21@icloud.com'. Please log into that account now to prove ownership of those parts.".
The fact Apple didn't allow that is a pretty strong indicator that they wanted to have full control of the repair market.
Re: EU countries must implement right to repair laws within two years
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Professional repairs are the ones lobbying for right to repair laws? Do you have proof for this outlandish claim?
The most vocal person behind the right to repair movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npd_xDuNi9k Oh, and he runs a professional repair shop...
Saying Louis Rossmann is fighting for the right to repair while trying to keep individuals from repairing their own devices is like saying Linus Torvalds created Linux to keep people from getting the idea to build their own operating system.
Rossmann is fighting the good fight and also often doing videos showing how a repair actually works. Most famously a video where he showed that a certain type of common Macbook screen repair is just a simple bent pin that he even repaired for free while the official Apple repair would have cost hundreds of dollars
Re: EU countries must implement right to repair laws within two years
#25Holy shit anyone else notice the "accept cookies" options on this page, where "Accept" is a tiny checkmark and "Reject" is a large text button?
I get two equally sized buttons on desktop, "I accept cookies" and "I refuse cookies". But it's an official EU page after all, would a be pretty bad show if they had one of those dark-pattern cookie banners where "Accept" is a single click but refusing requires to go through pages and pages of checkboxes ;)
I don't think it's a good implementation. Takes up lots of space of the screen.
Also:
"With your permission, we will use AT internet and Hotjar cookies to produce aggregated, anonymous data about our visitors' browsing and behaviour on our website."
They could use something like plausible and that won't even need any cookie notices.
Re: EU countries must implement right to repair laws within two years
#26It’s another nail in the coffin of consumer hardware startups. In addition to CE and waste issues now comes a requirement for repairability. Only the big guys with departments of clerks can launch a product nowadays.
The Framework laptop seems to be a counter example to your theory, the company seems to be just under 50 people which isn't all that big even for a startup, and repairability is one of their main selling points.
Re: EU countries must implement right to repair laws within two years
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Professional repairs are the ones lobbying for right to repair laws? Do you have proof for this outlandish claim?
The most vocal person behind the right to repair movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npd_xDuNi9k Oh, and he runs a professional repair shop...
You kind of scuttled your own argument there by pointing to the exact opposite of what's being described upthread.
Re: EU countries must implement right to repair laws within two years
#28As far as I can tell, this directive mainly mandates that producers offer to repair certain categories of products, for a price or for free and that independent professional repair shops/services can access tools, parts and information needed to do so.
> Producers shall ensure that >independent [professional] repairers (From Art. 5)
Unless I'm missing something, there is nothing here granting the right or feasibility of repairing things yourself.
If I understand the directive correctly, producers can void all of this in a EULA. I may be wrong.
Re: EU countries must implement right to repair laws within two years
#29Holy shit anyone else notice the "accept cookies" options on this page, where "Accept" is a tiny checkmark and "Reject" is a large text button?
This is what it looks like for me: https://imgur.com/2eFW3Ef
Two big clearly labeled buttons.
Re: EU countries must implement right to repair laws within two years
#30It’s another nail in the coffin of consumer hardware startups. In addition to CE and waste issues now comes a requirement for repairability. Only the big guys with departments of clerks can launch a product nowadays.
The Framework laptop seems to be a counter example to your theory, the company seems to be just under 50 people which isn't all that big even for a startup, and repairability is one of their main selling points.
May I ask you what this company has to do with EU? If you could open the website you would find this information:
Company: Framework Computer Inc
Headquarters
Address: 447 Sutter St, PMB 135, San Francisco, CA, 94108-4618, United States