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Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

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Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

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Post by jacooper »

illusive4080 wrote: post #14
mhh__ wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately there are lots of devs stuck on windows, wsl is very popular.

Lots of people prefer Windows + WSL over Mac. I can’t fathom why anyone would choose Windows over Mac or Linux.

Honestly macos is in my opinion, a worse system in every regard, the only good thing is apple doesn't annoy you with ads, but if you can ignore that or just work around it somehow, I think windows is a better, more flexible OS.

The only advantage macos has for me is the battery life, and that's gone when the X elite drops, hopefully with great Linux support too (though I'm worried about X86-64 emulation on Linux)

That's all without mentioning the absurd pricing of Mac devices (in usable configurations, no, 8gb isn't enough).

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

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Post by quickslowdown »

Dalewyn wrote: post #18
Rinzler89 wrote: post #2

They should focus more on this kind of features, instead of paddling Copilot and AI every 5 minutes, or doing crazy stuff like removing the right Ctrl key to replace it with the new Copilot key. The only advantage of the latter is that is pushes more people to Linux faster. If they just focus instead on developers ( "developers! developers! developers!" ) and gamers, instead of AI gimmicks, things would be more peach…

>being the most hated big tech company. I thought that was either Google, Facebook, or Amazon depending on which way the winds are blowing on a given day.

I hate all of them equally, for what it's worth. Maybe Facebook a hair more, but it's too close to call.

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

illusive4080 wrote: post #14
mhh__ wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately there are lots of devs stuck on windows, wsl is very popular.

Lots of people prefer Windows + WSL over Mac. I can’t fathom why anyone would choose Windows over Mac or Linux.

I want to use my own hardware - Hackintosh requires too much effort to boot, let alone work reliably.

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

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Post by lolinder »

kenjackson wrote: post #15
Rinzler89 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If only Satya Nadella would dogfood the OOTB experience of Windows 11 and not whatever his IT departments set up for him, he'd probably throw his laptop out the window and fire half the Windows managers.

What's wrong with the OOTB experience? It's a million times better than it was back when I lived in the Windows OOTB experience. It seems much better than the OOTB of Ubuntu, although probably less good than MacOS.

When did you last try Ubuntu? It's actually gotten very good, to the point where I had an easier time setting up an external Blu-ray player on Linux than on Windows this past month.

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

sys_64738 wrote: post #17

Microsoft Windows must be one of the world's biggest Linux distributions.

WSL provides the means to run a distribution, it doesn’t provide its own. Ubuntu is the default, but others are officially supported.

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

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Post by TillE »

illusive4080 wrote: post #14
mhh__ wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately there are lots of devs stuck on windows, wsl is very popular.

Lots of people prefer Windows + WSL over Mac. I can’t fathom why anyone would choose Windows over Mac or Linux.

For Windows: Visual Studio, familiarity

Against macOS: Not wanting to fight the OS when I want to do something like attach a debugger to a program I didn't build

Against Linux: Having an NVIDIA card in my desktop

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

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Post by userbinator »

Dalewyn wrote: post #18
Rinzler89 wrote: post #2

They should focus more on this kind of features, instead of paddling Copilot and AI every 5 minutes, or doing crazy stuff like removing the right Ctrl key to replace it with the new Copilot key. The only advantage of the latter is that is pushes more people to Linux faster. If they just focus instead on developers ( "developers! developers! developers!" ) and gamers, instead of AI gimmicks, things would be more peach…

>being the most hated big tech company. I thought that was either Google, Facebook, or Amazon depending on which way the winds are blowing on a given day.

It's easy to avoid Facebook and Amazon. Microsoft and especially Google, not so much.

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

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Post by cyberax »

wrs wrote: post #13
Rinzler89 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If only Satya Nadella would dogfood the OOTB experience of Windows 11 and not whatever his IT departments set up for him, he'd probably throw his laptop out the window and fire half the Windows managers.

~20 years ago BillG would occasionally send an unhappy internal email to execs/architects with a list of annoying or nonsensical things he ran into using Windows, Office, or whatever. I can't say that it had much effect! Other than all installers being terrible, the only one I can sort of remember is a rant about "My Documents" and how the word "My" made no sense.

It had plenty of effect! WinXP/2k were the most logically organized Windows OS. It went rapidly downhill once Bill Gates left Microsoft.

Re: Microsoft Rolling Out New Windows Subsystem for Linux "WSL" Features for 2024

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Post by Lammy »

wrs wrote: post #13
Rinzler89 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If only Satya Nadella would dogfood the OOTB experience of Windows 11 and not whatever his IT departments set up for him, he'd probably throw his laptop out the window and fire half the Windows managers.

~20 years ago BillG would occasionally send an unhappy internal email to execs/architects with a list of annoying or nonsensical things he ran into using Windows, Office, or whatever. I can't say that it had much effect! Other than all installers being terrible, the only one I can sort of remember is a rant about "My Documents" and how the word "My" made no sense.

> a rant about "My Documents" and how the word "My" made no sense

Where's the lie? They aren't the computer's document — they're mine! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX1x7pfH8fw

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