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Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Post by dylan604 »

sandofsky wrote: post #18
masto wrote: post #6

For a video recording app, it's an interesting marketing decision that there's only one video on the page. And at least on my computer, it doesn't play, I only hear the audio. These folks have a stellar reputation, and I'll be buying this app on that (and the I-was-expecting-more-digits price) alone, but I would have enjoyed seeing some kind of short film "shot on Kino". If only to see some professional work.

We definitely had more video examples planned, but production fell through at the 11th hour, and we decided it was important to ship before WWDC. So it goes. However, the advertisement in the blog post made by Sandwich Video was entirely shot on Kino.

Making the decisions like that for getting exposure from an event with a pre-release version is always a scary thing. Luckily, WWDC attendees will be much more understanding of early versions vs the public. Good luck!

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Post by dylan604 »

dagmx wrote: post #11

I’m glad the page does a call out to the Invisible CG series. I know it’s a quick aside but it’s important for people in the trade to stand by each other. On a different note, I am curious though how the page manages to use so much copyright content though. I always think that’s a risky move.

> use so much copyright content though

It's called fair use. They are static shots and not even close to the magical "8 seconds" rule. They are providing dramatic examples that many people are familiar with. Showing the before/after of something your mom shot means nothing to people. Showing extremely famous examples immediately lets people know what is possible and to what extent.

I see nothing wrong with any of what was used or how it was used but especially why it was used.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Post by sneak »

Insta-buy as soon as I saw the “Data not collected” privacy label.

Thanks for not bundling spyware like everyone does in apps these days. I’m happy to support anyone who isn’t spying on users.

I don’t use Halide specifically because it does phone home (and is IAP subscriptionware cancer).

Even though I shoot log and use Resolve, this might be fun for quick stuff without a round trip through the desktop computer.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Post by z5h »

As a long time amateur photographer (using physical cameras and lenses), I have Halide (by the same company) on my iOS home screen for when I need to take a real phono on my iPhone. I use it all the time without issue. And would recommend it to any photographer.

So I paid for Kino without hesitation. Just fired it up, set BNW grade, pressed record, and it immediately crashed. Tried again and it crashed again. Tried AGAIN and it worked... (iPhone 13 mini, iOS 17.4.1).

I have faith this will be worked out soon.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Post by sandofsky »

dagmx wrote: post #11

I’m glad the page does a call out to the Invisible CG series. I know it’s a quick aside but it’s important for people in the trade to stand by each other. On a different note, I am curious though how the page manages to use so much copyright content though. I always think that’s a risky move.

On copyright, we go out of our way to generate original graphics for our posts, but if we do use an excerpt of other people’s content, we keep it brief and link back to source for the full details.

Are you referring to the shots from the Matrix and Blade Runner? In this case, I think we’re commenting on the source material, which falls under fair use. I think the imagery is iconic enough that it feels a bit silly to say “this is from The Matrix,” but I could be convinced otherwise.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Post by IncreasePosts »

dylan604 wrote: post #23
pavel_lishin wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why?

Do other manufactures shoot in the log mode that this is specifically taking advantage of? If not, there's no point of it from any other millions of apple on the Play store.

Well, there is the Camera2API RAW stream on android which is even more powerful that shooting in log mode.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Post by lynndotpy »

sneak wrote: post #25

Insta-buy as soon as I saw the “Data not collected” privacy label. Thanks for not bundling spyware like everyone does in apps these days. I’m happy to support anyone who isn’t spying on users. I don’t use Halide specifically because it does phone home (and is IAP subscriptionware cancer). Even though I shoot log and use Resolve, this might be fun for quick stuff without a round trip through the desktop computer.

Just a heads up, the "privacy label" does not necessarily match the actual privacy policy. It's not required to match, and there is no accountability mechanism when it doesn't.

What you want is the Privacy Policy, which links to https://halide.com/privacy/, which is a 404 page.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Post by Yenrabbit »

lelo_tp wrote: post #16

I don't know much about the company and never used their products, but this article is such a delicious read: https://www.lux.camera/orion-from-idea-to-launch-in-45-days/ Really tells how much they care about their craft

Delicious is the right word, everything (post included) is crafted with care.
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