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The futures of Facebook and Google are embedded in these two images

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Re: The futures of Facebook and Google are embedded in these two images

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Post by pessimizer »

dfxm12 wrote: post #13
gouranga wrote: post #10

That google glass picture scares the fuck out of me. It instantly devalues humanity and values voyeurism and narcissism over family. If this becomes the norm, I'm going all Luddite. I think it will also become: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma8NbpCvSwo

Can you elaborate how a picture taken with a camera you wear like glasses "devalues humanity and values voyeurism and narcissism over family" compared to a picture taken with a more (I guess) traditional camera?

A camera is alienating, and a camera that you constantly wear is even more alienating; like a locked cell is more imprisoning than a locked country.

Recommendation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mirror_%28TV_series%29#3...

Re: The futures of Facebook and Google are embedded in these two images

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Post by Symmetry »

rjv wrote: post #3

I agree that all of the Google X projects of today will ultimately be what defines Google tomorrow. The fact that they have the guts to tackle projects that are incredibly risky for a business but meaningful for humanity is a major reason I'm happy to use their products. I love the geek factor.

I'm not sure it's that risky for them. Google tends to try a bunch of different stuff, but doesn't seem too shy about cuttings its losses and failing reasonably fast when needed.

Re: The futures of Facebook and Google are embedded in these two images

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Post by AsylumWarden »

loganlinn wrote: post #15

As a moot sidenote, this story was submitted yesterday http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4038962 (yes, coincidently by me)

For me personally it was the title. For me, I am not as interested in "pictures and vision" as I am interested in the ongoing dominance struggle between Google and Facebook. Sensationalism, or at least a good teaser title, wins the day for me I'm afraid. It is a good find though. Good luck next time!

Re: The futures of Facebook and Google are embedded in these two images

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Post by saraid216 »

gouranga wrote: post #18
dfxm12 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate how a picture taken with a camera you wear like glasses "devalues humanity and values voyeurism and narcissism over family" compared to a picture taken with a more (I guess) traditional camera?

Simply intent. The intent shipped with google glass is social by default. share. Identify. Record. There is no other reason to use it. The intent with a camera is to take a photo then decide the intent. The former is a dangerous paradigm shift.

I didn't realize you had a Google Glass. How do you get one, and how can I get one?

Re: The futures of Facebook and Google are embedded in these two images

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Post by Domenic_S »

pessimizer wrote: post #21
dfxm12 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate how a picture taken with a camera you wear like glasses "devalues humanity and values voyeurism and narcissism over family" compared to a picture taken with a more (I guess) traditional camera?

A camera is alienating, and a camera that you constantly wear is even more alienating; like a locked cell is more imprisoning than a locked country. Recommendation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mirror_%28TV_series%29#3...

Instead of a wearable camera, what if it was technology that could tap into your own eyes and connect to the internet? Same result, different presentation. Would that change perception do you think?

Re: The futures of Facebook and Google are embedded in these two images

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Post by shrub »

stesch wrote: post #20
gcb wrote: post #12

Glass will be google's newton pad. a new world promise, but in reality totally uncool and only used by a few san francisco hippies-yuppies. And then forgotten. With a chance of a decade later becoming a game changer.

Yes, Apple will bring out a cool version in 2020.

iEyes?

Re: The futures of Facebook and Google are embedded in these two images

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Post by fuzzythinker »

gcb wrote: post #12

Glass will be google's newton pad. a new world promise, but in reality totally uncool and only used by a few san francisco hippies-yuppies. And then forgotten. With a chance of a decade later becoming a game changer.

You are thinking of today's Glass. In 2-3 iterations, the camera will be so small and embedded in the frame that it won't be noticeable.

Re: The futures of Facebook and Google are embedded in these two images

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Post by taligent »

joelrunyon wrote: post #4

It seems that Google's products have future utility to them that seems to be lacking from FB. Facebook is focused on sharing. That can be an action, but until the action is focused, it doesn't seem to be useful (other than as a time-suck of course).

I fail to see how photos which provide pleasure, foster relationships, enlighten and educate is not useful but a camera you wear on your head is.

Re: The futures of Facebook and Google are embedded in these two images

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Post by Splines »

stesch wrote: post #20
gcb wrote: post #12

Glass will be google's newton pad. a new world promise, but in reality totally uncool and only used by a few san francisco hippies-yuppies. And then forgotten. With a chance of a decade later becoming a game changer.

Yes, Apple will bring out a cool version in 2020.

How do you make wearing a headpiece cool? I wear glasses and imagine some teeny tiny thing embedded in one of the arms. What could 20/20 people do that would be socially acceptable? Maybe a bluetooth headset looking thing?

Re: The futures of Facebook and Google are embedded in these two images

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Post by saraid216 »

gcb wrote: post #16
SkyMarshal wrote: post #9

For anyone who didn't rtfa, here's a cool link of Sebastian Thrun demonstrating Project Glass on Charlie Rose: http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/12321

i did read the article, clicked to the interview link, saw only a picture and left. now i saw your comment, clicked the link and was about to dismiss the page a second time thinking all it had was a silly image when i finally decided to click it. so much for usability. how difficult it is to add a "play" triangle to video?

Charlie Rose, despite his quality as an interviewer, is still part of "Old Media" and their crotchety inability to get "New Media". I don't mean Rose specifically, but the people he's paid by.

Also, I sound completely stupid in that paragraph but I can't figure out how to say it better. :P

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