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Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Post by ein0p »

janice1999 wrote: post #14
ein0p wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify is already filled with “10 million of functionally identical songs” made by people “looking to scrape off a few cents”. The state of the art, such as it is, could hardly be any worse.

Automating slop will absolutely increase its volume multiple orders of magnitude. At least human made music, however terrible, stands the chance of accidentally being interesting.

When everyone can produce “slop” in seconds the value of slop rapidly approaches zero and you have to do something the machine can’t do, which is produce original, superior material. You also get to use generations as a starting point and improve upon them. I think if anything this will only improve the human SOTA.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Post by tapoxi »

jbgreer wrote: post #17

In the free tier, Suno owns all of the Output. I'm wondering when someone will make a song, realize it's pretty good, and attempt to recreate it after creating a paid tier account. Subject to your compliance with the terms of this Agreement, if you are a user who has subscribed to the paid tier of the Service, Suno hereby assigns to you all of its right, title and interest in and to any Output owned by Suno and gener…

Well the output isn't created by a human, so this concept of a license is invalid. You can't copyright something generated by AI.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Post by searine »

It is kind of crazy that "BBL Drizzy" of all things set a precedent. Using AI to create an incomplete song and then a real producer using it as a royalty-free sample to create an actual hit song.

I could see this paradigm becoming insanely popular with indie artists to make high quality / low skill backing tracks for their vocals.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Post by sergiotapia »

Uber fought transportation in huge cities. Very mafia/gang/backdoor dealy right? They ultimately won or bribed the right people.

Isn't the music industry like 10x more gangster? Will guys with bats go into the Suno CEO's office and hang him by his heels over the balcony?

I wonder how it plays out.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Post by jsheard »

ein0p wrote: post #21
janice1999 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Automating slop will absolutely increase its volume multiple orders of magnitude. At least human made music, however terrible, stands the chance of accidentally being interesting.

When everyone can produce “slop” in seconds the value of slop rapidly approaches zero and you have to do something the machine can’t do, which is produce original, superior material. You also get to use generations as a starting point and improve upon them. I think if anything this will only improve the human SOTA.

The value of slop does approach zero, but as the time and money required to produce slop also approaches zero it takes very little incentive for people to keep churning out infinite amounts of slop. If it costs 2 cents to make an AI generated song and the EV on its Spotify revenue is 3 cents then it's worth doing if you can automate it. Meanwhile everyone making an actual effort, using AI or not, gets buried under an ocean of shit that nobody has the patience to wade through.

This is the principle behind AI-generated SEO blogs, the content is garbage that nobody wants, but they are profitable nonetheless.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Post by sebzim4500 »

kadushka wrote: post #6
ein0p wrote: post #3

It’s a fun service and an impressive demo, but to “make music” I need a lot more control than just entering the lyrics and describing the style. That said, there are some awesome examples there already, even with the current limitations, so I’m hopeful. Apparently so are their investors.

If you're looking for control, check out https://www.aiva.ai It's MIDI based, and provides a piano roll interface for editing.

The example song is the best instrumental I've seen generated with AI, and it isn't close.

Since you have a lot of customization though, it's hard to judge how much is the AI and how much is the human.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Post by japhyr »

jbgreer wrote: post #17

In the free tier, Suno owns all of the Output. I'm wondering when someone will make a song, realize it's pretty good, and attempt to recreate it after creating a paid tier account. Subject to your compliance with the terms of this Agreement, if you are a user who has subscribed to the paid tier of the Service, Suno hereby assigns to you all of its right, title and interest in and to any Output owned by Suno and gener…

Wow, we're all used to data grabs and IP issues. But that seems to play out a little differently in the music world.

Ideas in tech are cheap, it's usually the implementation that matters. With something like lyrics, that doesn't seem to be the case.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Post by mtalantikite »

This is about generating something to consume though, not make? Making music is about so much more than the end product. It's the path not the destination etc. You learn so much about life when you have an artistic practice in general (not just music). I'm perfectly fine embracing AI tools, but clicking some buttons to generate a song isn't making music.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Post by robxorb »

For greater control, higher quality audio results and less censorship, but with the downside of being a bit fiddly, there's Udio. It's otherwise functionally similar:

https://www.udio.com/

(Not affiliated, nor have used either much - based on first impressions playing around and listening to others results.)

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