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YouTube blocked videos for Russian draft dodgers on request from Roskomnadzor

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Re: YouTube blocked videos for Russian draft dodgers on request from Roskomnadzor

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Eh, this is pretty cynical. Google doesn't do business in China despite it probably being very lucrative for them. Unlike say, Apple, which gets lots of praise for privacy or whatever. Different companies "sell-out" in different ways. Honestly, it's probably a good thing for YouTube to be available in Russia. It allows for western media to be seen by their population. If Russians only had access to Russian and Chines…

Google isn't in China because of the costs. There are the public perception costs, the infrastructure and staffing needed to maintain compliance with China's censorship requirements, and the taxes. Even attempting to partner with China on a tech project resulted in major blowback from their staff in recent years. It's not lucrative at all - the potential costs outweigh the potential profits. Lots of people would be f…

> There are the public perception costs, the infrastructure and staffing needed to maintain compliance with China's censorship requirements, and the taxes.

Don't be silly. Infrastructure and an ops team aren't meaningful costs in relation to the money to be made there. China is 1/6th of the world economy.

And for example Apple is absolutely minting money there, giving full cooperation to the CCP including handing over user data thousands of times per year, with no PR consequences at all. Even on HN, let alone with the general public.

Now, it is true that there would be PR consequences for Google specifically, since there is a double standard at play. In this case it's a self-inflicted double standard, since they left China in the first place. But would those consequences be durable? It's hard to say. Google's leadership under Pichai has been incredibly risk averse, so it makes sense they're not taking that gamble just like they're taking no other gambles.

But it's definitely not obvious that the costs of operating in China would exceed the benefits.

Re: YouTube blocked videos for Russian draft dodgers on request from Roskomnadzor

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Why is YT still available in Russia?

"Why would Google forego a potential source of revenue." Things like morality and ethics don't play a part in what these big corporations do. There's only profit and loss. If it's illegal, but they will make more than they lose in fines, they'll take the profit. If it's legal, but loses them money, they won't do it. They're in Russia because it makes them money. If it didn't make them money, they wouldn't be there. T…

Google famously exited China while refusing to censor search results.

Re: YouTube blocked videos for Russian draft dodgers on request from Roskomnadzor

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Russian government would be very happy if it wasn't.

Wow - I can't believe I didn't see that perspective before posting. Thanks!

To add on to the above - in the grand scheme of things Google probably does not care about foreign political influence. It's likely the US government has politely asked them to maintain service in Russia.

Re: YouTube blocked videos for Russian draft dodgers on request from Roskomnadzor

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You don't think Google has made any money off of Russians from YouTube since the war started? Is there a way to verify that claim? Because I'm pretty sure I'm still watching YouTubers based in Russia, and I would imagine ads play on their videos (I'm not going to bother turning off my Adblock to check)

https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/10502938

Does the link you provided state that Google doesn't run ads on Russian produced content?

Re: YouTube blocked videos for Russian draft dodgers on request from Roskomnadzor

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YouTube must either respect local laws or leave the country... Which means that they should perhaps stop doing business with totalitarian regimes.

Regimes like Australia and New Zealand?

Huh?

These two countries heavily censor the internet.

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