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I find it more useful to "follow my curiosity" ... I feel the concept of "dreams" has too much weight and seriousness attached to it nowadays

I like this. It also allows me to change my mind, something I do with dismaying regularity!

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I find it more useful to "follow my curiosity" ... I feel the concept of "dreams" has too much weight and seriousness attached to it nowadays

I like this. It also allows me to change my mind, something I do with dismaying regularity!

yep exactly. In contrast, with "Dreams" -- if you change your mind or stop pursuing them or take a break from pursuing them... the implication is "failure". It's unnecessary, distracting pressure.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apologies, still finding my footing here at HN. I have a lot "reddit reflexes" for lack of a better word, and this was probably a product of that.

You might check someone's account age or history first. Typically people won't accumulate many thousands of karma points if they are shilling for brands.

I have this method of checking for information sources to trust. I check for their reputation, and find evidence that they can be trusted.

I should probably take my own advice ... but I have to figure how to do it first.

1st day. Thanks for the tip.

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The ironical thing about the "Follow what creates value for other people" advice - for math graduates in particular - is that most of modern math doesn't seem to be motivated this. I'd probably agree that research math also doesn't come from a goal of "self growth", but maybe it should be something like "follow your curiosity".

“People” need to be better defined. In the case of pure math, “people” are your fellow mathematicians in your specific subfield or adjacent.

This is such a math answer, lol. I love it.

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post #19

The ironical thing about the "Follow what creates value for other people" advice - for math graduates in particular - is that most of modern math doesn't seem to be motivated this. I'd probably agree that research math also doesn't come from a goal of "self growth", but maybe it should be something like "follow your curiosity".

“People” need to be better defined. In the case of pure math, “people” are your fellow mathematicians in your specific subfield or adjacent.

The “other” in “people” needs to be there :)

One may cite Grothendieck as counterexamples, but maybe they still only had themselves in their adjacent subfields (at the time they made their most impactful discoveries, anyway)

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The ironical thing about the "Follow what creates value for other people" advice - for math graduates in particular - is that most of modern math doesn't seem to be motivated this. I'd probably agree that research math also doesn't come from a goal of "self growth", but maybe it should be something like "follow your curiosity".

As others stated, who the 'people' are varies.

I used to sell cars and was top 0.1% in the country at it.

Yet others would say I was a parasite costing them money for nothing. But they were ignoring I was providing value for the dealership and its collection of employees even beyond the owners. I worked for a public corporation. Tons of stake holders profited via stock value while I was there.

On a tangent, people always say they'd rather just buy cars online. Great you can do that for one. Second, if all manufacturers did that, month 1 results would be whatever they were. On day 1 of month 2, some MBA would say "hey, if we had a human these people could call, chat with, or even visit with for a test drive, wouldn't sales go up? Let's try it!" And within a month you'd have salespeople interacting with customers again.

Re: What "Follow Your Dreams" Misses [video]

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The ironical thing about the "Follow what creates value for other people" advice - for math graduates in particular - is that most of modern math doesn't seem to be motivated this. I'd probably agree that research math also doesn't come from a goal of "self growth", but maybe it should be something like "follow your curiosity".

As others stated, who the 'people' are varies. I used to sell cars and was top 0.1% in the country at it. Yet others would say I was a parasite costing them money for nothing. But they were ignoring I was providing value for the dealership and its collection of employees even beyond the owners. I worked for a public corporation. Tons of stake holders profited via stock value while I was there. On a tangent, people al…

> parasite costing them money for nothing

Don't dealerships (and the salesperson) only make hundreds on a $30k car? It's almost a loss leader for the service department.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As others stated, who the 'people' are varies. I used to sell cars and was top 0.1% in the country at it. Yet others would say I was a parasite costing them money for nothing. But they were ignoring I was providing value for the dealership and its collection of employees even beyond the owners. I worked for a public corporation. Tons of stake holders profited via stock value while I was there. On a tangent, people al…

> parasite costing them money for nothing Don't dealerships (and the salesperson) only make hundreds on a $30k car? It's almost a loss leader for the service department.

Absolutely. If a vehicle is discounted towards invoice, a salesperson can easily end up making $250 on a $100,000 fully loaded Audi A8.

Heck, I've sold used cars at asking price and still made $250 just because the dealership overpaid on the trade in.

All in all it all adds up and evens out, but mentally it can be frustrating coming into work on 4th of July and spending hours with someone trying to have fun looking at 4 cars and then leaving. And then finally selling one at 7pm and staying late, to make $250.

And with the way the pay plans are structured, it's hourly pay OR commission whichever is higher..so if you sold a few cars Wednesday Thursday for $2k, you can end up coming to work Friday Saturday Sunday, not selling anything, and technically didnt get paid anything more for those hours.

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