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We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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Post by Justsignedup »

hi-v-rocknroll wrote: post #20
takkatakka wrote: post #18

Wow. Their salary ranges seem low? Backend Engineer, assuming that is mid level: "The base salary range for this full-time position is between $38,900 USD to $87,500 USD"

$38,900 USD is $18.70/hr working only 40 hr/wk. That isn't even minimum wage in some areas anymore. Well, you know what they say: If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. EDIT: For comparison, a MAANG engineer makes around $250k USD.

In new york that's below McDonald's fry cook employee pay.

Also maang total compensation for Sr engineer roles is about 400k+

Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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Post by abracadaniel »

adamredwoods wrote: post #17
jonfw wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who doesn’t want a big win, quickly, for cheap?

So cycle through as many workers as possible and just keep the shining stars? Incredibly demoralizing and chaotic.

That would require the ability to recognize and reward excellence, which you don’t see very often. Instead, they tend to go out of their way to try to make everyone feel replaceable and temporary.

Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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Post by alephnerd »

takkatakka wrote: post #18

Wow. Their salary ranges seem low? Backend Engineer, assuming that is mid level: "The base salary range for this full-time position is between $38,900 USD to $87,500 USD"

They remote-first and global, so it's aimed at developers outside of the US.

Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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Post by deprecative »

adamredwoods wrote: post #7

>> I believe the most capable person for any position isn’t necessarily the person with the most amount of experience. Great companies are built by people with drive and intensity, not by people with years of experience doing the same thing. Hiring should be based on soft guidelines, not hard lines of gatekeeping. I'm glad some companies are aware of this. But to state you want people with "drive and intensity" can p…

I read 'drive and intensity' in a far more nebulous 'passion' that is thrown around by companies to attract true believers who will dedicate 90% of their waking hours to The Mission whatever that may be.

Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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Post by sidewndr46 »

DarkUranium wrote: post #3
belter wrote: post #2

> I believe the most capable person for any position isn’t necessarily the person with the most amount of experience. Looking forward to see this applied to Doctors, Engineers, Pilots, Anesthesiologists, Teachers, Surgeons, Architects, Financial Analysts, Air Traffic Controllers, Dentists and Lawyers :-))

Fun fact: I find that, at least with dentists, the quality seems to be an inverse function of their experience. I've gone through a lot of dentists recently (long story, but nothing to do with quality of dental work), and I've consistently found that the younger/"inexperienced" dentists use more modern/advanced[^1] techniques, whereas the older ones tend to favor sticking to what they learned in a medical school year…

I've more less accepted that dentists and other related fields are mostly licensed so they

1. don't kill you doing something stupid

2. if they make a big mistake, know how to deal with it and get help immediately

This isn't a jab at dentists at all, as I feel like I've been lucky enough to have good dentists that did great work at reasonable fees.

I'v also dealt with

1. an orthodontist that apparently just ground the enamel off my teeth while I was a child, for cosmetic reasons

2. a dentist that somehow cut a square pocket into my tooth to treat a tiny cavity. This caused stress fractures in the tooth originating from the corners. The dentist who repaired it even said "I do not understand how this was even done. It should not be possible to do with normal dentistry tools"

Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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Post by banish-m4 »

Perhaps technical interviews should blind resumes and experience and instead focus on phased filtering to a point of realistic performative tasks close to the work rather than 20 minute mad dashes to solve theoretical puzzles. But if a shop optimizes for leetcode winners, then they're only hurting themselves.

Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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Post by insane_dreamer »

adamredwoods wrote: post #7

>> I believe the most capable person for any position isn’t necessarily the person with the most amount of experience. Great companies are built by people with drive and intensity, not by people with years of experience doing the same thing. Hiring should be based on soft guidelines, not hard lines of gatekeeping. I'm glad some companies are aware of this. But to state you want people with "drive and intensity" can p…

Drive and intensity can also read as “young person willing to work 14 hours a day plus weekends” vs “older experienced person with a family and who is no longer as willing to sacrifice themselves and their family on the altar of work so some shareholder can make more $$.

Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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Post by [deleted] »

deprecative wrote: post #24
adamredwoods wrote: post #7

>> I believe the most capable person for any position isn’t necessarily the person with the most amount of experience. Great companies are built by people with drive and intensity, not by people with years of experience doing the same thing. Hiring should be based on soft guidelines, not hard lines of gatekeeping. I'm glad some companies are aware of this. But to state you want people with "drive and intensity" can p…

I read 'drive and intensity' in a far more nebulous 'passion' that is thrown around by companies to attract true believers who will dedicate 90% of their waking hours to The Mission whatever that may be.

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Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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Post by musicale »

adamredwoods wrote: post #17
jonfw wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who doesn’t want a big win, quickly, for cheap?

So cycle through as many workers as possible and just keep the shining stars? Incredibly demoralizing and chaotic.

I think Microsoft may have tried that. How else could they have created 80 million lines of Microsoft Office code?

Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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Post by musicale »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #27
adamredwoods wrote: post #7

>> I believe the most capable person for any position isn’t necessarily the person with the most amount of experience. Great companies are built by people with drive and intensity, not by people with years of experience doing the same thing. Hiring should be based on soft guidelines, not hard lines of gatekeeping. I'm glad some companies are aware of this. But to state you want people with "drive and intensity" can p…

Drive and intensity can also read as “young person willing to work 14 hours a day plus weekends” vs “older experienced person with a family and who is no longer as willing to sacrifice themselves and their family on the altar of work so some shareholder can make more $$.

Here at CrapCorp, we are looking for intensely driven individuals who will eagerly sacrifice their health and happiness (and, in some cases, their very lives) to bring increased wealth to our executives and shareholders.

For those that do make the ultimate sacrifice, we offer a commemorative "thanks for your effort to increase shareholder value" plaque, which may be displayed with pride at your interment site, or by your next of kin.

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