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Viking 7B: open LLM for the Nordic languages trained on AMD GPUs

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Re: Viking 7B: open LLM for the Nordic languages trained on AMD GPUs

#21

I have had this question. How much better would common LLMs (Llama, GPTN) be if they were only trained in one language? I have to assume they would perform better, but I might be wrong.

they would perform worse, i promise you

"I promise you"?

This is Hackernews, I would have expected data, not promises.

Re: Viking 7B: open LLM for the Nordic languages trained on AMD GPUs

#22
post #7

Great talking points. These are highly relevant subjects and I'm delighted we in the Nordics are keeping up with current developments. This work is important for preserving our culture. I hope to see this used to generate a customized curriculum for each neurodiverse child so that we can live in a more equitable society.

No offense but this reply is giving me such “generated by an LLM” vibes, I’m curious if it is

Re: Viking 7B: open LLM for the Nordic languages trained on AMD GPUs

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post #22
post #7

Great talking points. These are highly relevant subjects and I'm delighted we in the Nordics are keeping up with current developments. This work is important for preserving our culture. I hope to see this used to generate a customized curriculum for each neurodiverse child so that we can live in a more equitable society.

No offense but this reply is giving me such “generated by an LLM” vibes, I’m curious if it is

Who knows? Maybe I am an AI set to break encryption and I'm just hallucinating this, a training environment.

Re: Viking 7B: open LLM for the Nordic languages trained on AMD GPUs

#24
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just like adding code to textual models helps the model develop its reasoning capabilities, it seems like adding more languages helps in other areas too. What is needed is more good quality data to train on...

> its reasoning capabilities To be clear, LLMs are not capable of reasoning.

imo this is an uninteresting debate over semantics/metaphysics

Re: Viking 7B: open LLM for the Nordic languages trained on AMD GPUs

#25
Would an LLM trained on a smaller language have better cultural awareness etc than one trained in English? Because English is written all over the world by all kinds of people, an English LLM will average that (and for instance feel a bit off for an American). But a Norwegian LLM for instance, trained on a language mostly written by Norwegians, would that feel more natural to me in comparison?

Re: Viking 7B: open LLM for the Nordic languages trained on AMD GPUs

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think they decided that, they included Finish which is completely unrelated to the other nordic languages. If they just picked languages that are related for cross learning including Dutch or German would have made more sense indeed.

Including Finnish was probably just a political choice, since Finland and Sweden are very close politically, much closer than Germany or other areas with more similar languages.

This was done by a Finnish company and university. They would've included Finnish even without any political motivation.

Re: Viking 7B: open LLM for the Nordic languages trained on AMD GPUs

#28

Is there something similar for romance or Germanic languages? And how did they decide that, e.g., German or Dutch would make the model worse?

I don't think they decided that, they included Finish which is completely unrelated to the other nordic languages. If they just picked languages that are related for cross learning including Dutch or German would have made more sense indeed.

The company is based in Finland, they started with Finnish

Re: Viking 7B: open LLM for the Nordic languages trained on AMD GPUs

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post #10

Would love to know more about their experience training on AMD GPUs. Was it just as seamless as using Cuda?

They probably got a lot of hand holding from AMD.

Having access to enterprise GPUs on one of the biggest HPCs systems in Europe is probably enough.

AMDs bad rep in AI is mostly due to flaky support of its consumer GPUs.

Re: Viking 7B: open LLM for the Nordic languages trained on AMD GPUs

#30

Is there something similar for romance or Germanic languages? And how did they decide that, e.g., German or Dutch would make the model worse?

The nordic languages are germanic except for finnish, but yeah finnish is an exception and I'd expect most small LLMs to struggle with it.
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