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I wonder if it won't be a little late when the laptops will be finally available to consumers.
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Laptops with this chip are not shipping yet, so it’s a bit early to judge performance.
There are some early benchmarks which put its performance behind iPad: - Snapdragon X Elite (2,574 / 12,562) - iPad M4 (3,630 / 13,060)
I'm hopeful that Snapdragon will offer an alternative ARM platform for laptops that can handle more than just browsing. As consumers, we need options, and the more, the merrier. I'm still undecided about the short-term success of Snapdragon. For now, I'm betting/waiting on the MacBook Air with an M4 as my daily driver, although I do prefer the Lenovo ThinkPad format.
This is very cool, sure the performance isn’t as good as Apple’s stuff but a reasonably performant processor with official Linux support is very cool
How fast can a system compile my projects that is.
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Laptops with this chip are not shipping yet, so it’s a bit early to judge performance.
There are some early benchmarks which put its performance behind iPad: - Snapdragon X Elite (2,574 / 12,562) - iPad M4 (3,630 / 13,060)
Asahi Linux benchmarks on an M3 MacBook Air would be the closest thing here.
But, as far as I can tell from the diagram on the link shared, you will boot into EL1 and not EL2. This means that you cannot run a hardware accelerated VM on KVM (via something like qemu).
This makes a Snapdragon Linux laptop not as useful. BTW Asahi Linux on Apple Silicon enters on EL2 which allows qemu+KVM.
Entering on EL1 instead of EL2 seems to be be an outstanding issue with current Snapdragon based Linux laptops too. Can anybody correct me here if I'm wrong ?
> In short, our roadmap for the next six months includes work in these areas:
> End-to-end hardware video decoding, on Firefox and Chrome
> Implementation of the libcamera-SoftISP camera solution
> GPU and CPU performance optimizations
> Power optimizations (Suspend/DCVS)
> Making our firmware openly available (in Linux-firmware)
> Access to easy installers (Ubuntu and Debian)
"Making our firmware openly available (in Linux-firmware)" is a big one. How are firmware updates currently distributed ? People using Linux Laptops probably don't want to be signing into some Qualcomm website to get latest firmware updates. Also downloading firmware updates from some random link either would not instill a lot of confidence either.
I feel these 2 big items need to be addressed before Linux on Snapdragon can be a truly attractive option.
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I used a Huawei laptop and it's great. Huawei's build quality is significantly better than Asus. Not Apple level, but maybe half way there. Lenovo is also pretty good in quality (depending on the model though). Asus laptops are either cheap plastic or extremely thin metal that flexes - even on top end models. They also have a bad track record with support for their Tinkerboards. Not sure how the country of origin mat…
Technically they might be fine, but there are geopolitical reasons to avoid chinese products.
Qualcomm hyped these CPUs since years showing results in benchmarks. We still don't have laptops with Snapdragon X Elite but meanwhile competition is releasing improved chips, see M4. I wonder if it won't be a little late when the laptops will be finally available to consumers.
(Also likely for people who don't have $$$ to throw around for hardware)
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Laptops with this chip are not shipping yet, so it’s a bit early to judge performance.
There are some early benchmarks which put its performance behind iPad: - Snapdragon X Elite (2,574 / 12,562) - iPad M4 (3,630 / 13,060)