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Re: Nintendo to announce new console by end of fiscal year

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Post by GuB-42 »

accrual wrote: post #8
tempaskhn wrote: post #4

I posted "Ask HN: What do you think about Nintendo phone competing with iPhone/Android?" [0] 8 months ago. Wondering if anyone else thinks it might be a phone. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37385793

I can't imagine a phone being a component. Nintendo has always had a conservative take on communications between users. It's usually filtered or reduced to set of preset phrases or emoji/reactions. Animal Crossing let you freely chat, but without a keyboard, it's difficult to get more than a couple short words out. Splatoon is a popular multiplayer game that greatly benefits from team communication, but all you have…

They are also mostly offline/local-first. Most of their best known games come on cartridges and while they have an online component and may require internet connectivity for updates, the main gameplay is either single player (Mario, Zelda) or local multiplayer (Smash Bros, Mario Kart). Splatoon is more of an exception.

And as for they system, the Switch doesn't even have a web browser (not officially at least).

That internet connectivity is limited is a feature. For parents who want to keep their kids away from the wild web, and for those who want to disconnect or have limited access. Nintendo is the only one in the mainstream doing this.

Re: Nintendo to announce new console by end of fiscal year

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Post by sparrc »

squigz wrote: post #20
legitster wrote: post #16

I finally bought a Switch for the family this last Christmas. Then immediately I get swamped by articles from Google about how the hardware is tired and they need a refresh. I think people are off their rocker. The experience is still pretty magical in 2024. I get that people are tired of the old thing and want the new thing, but it's hard to imagine what stops Nintendo could pull out to make me want to pay more than…

> It's either just going to be an even beefier Switch This is exactly what it's going to be, though I have to ask how necessary that is. I wonder if there's a name for this phenomenon - EA Sports Syndrome or something - where companies go from making good products every few years, to marginally changing the same product and releasing it every year.

To be fair to Nintendo, they're very much still in the former category of making good products every few years. The switch was originally released 7 years ago, which is ancient in the world of consumer electronics.

Re: Nintendo to announce new console by end of fiscal year

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Post by xnx »

squigz wrote: post #20
legitster wrote: post #16

I finally bought a Switch for the family this last Christmas. Then immediately I get swamped by articles from Google about how the hardware is tired and they need a refresh. I think people are off their rocker. The experience is still pretty magical in 2024. I get that people are tired of the old thing and want the new thing, but it's hard to imagine what stops Nintendo could pull out to make me want to pay more than…

> It's either just going to be an even beefier Switch This is exactly what it's going to be, though I have to ask how necessary that is. I wonder if there's a name for this phenomenon - EA Sports Syndrome or something - where companies go from making good products every few years, to marginally changing the same product and releasing it every year.

It's been over 7 years since the Switch was released on March 3, 2017. It's absolutely amazing how much they were able to squeeze out of it through software ingenuity, but it's potential is maxed out now. There were certainly some gameplay/enjoyment tradeoffs that had to be made in Tears of the Kingdom. It's probably financially impractical to keep getting the parts to make the "old" Switch vs. refreshing the hardware.

Re: Nintendo to announce new console by end of fiscal year

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Post by 0cf8612b2e1e »

legitster wrote: post #16

I finally bought a Switch for the family this last Christmas. Then immediately I get swamped by articles from Google about how the hardware is tired and they need a refresh. I think people are off their rocker. The experience is still pretty magical in 2024. I get that people are tired of the old thing and want the new thing, but it's hard to imagine what stops Nintendo could pull out to make me want to pay more than…

There were significant frame rate drops in Breath of the Wild (one of the tent pole games for the platform). Beefier hardware could have improved that experience.

Re: Nintendo to announce new console by end of fiscal year

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Post by Kye »

squigz wrote: post #20
legitster wrote: post #16

I finally bought a Switch for the family this last Christmas. Then immediately I get swamped by articles from Google about how the hardware is tired and they need a refresh. I think people are off their rocker. The experience is still pretty magical in 2024. I get that people are tired of the old thing and want the new thing, but it's hard to imagine what stops Nintendo could pull out to make me want to pay more than…

> It's either just going to be an even beefier Switch This is exactly what it's going to be, though I have to ask how necessary that is. I wonder if there's a name for this phenomenon - EA Sports Syndrome or something - where companies go from making good products every few years, to marginally changing the same product and releasing it every year.

The Wii was two Gamecubes glued together and set records. It's a winning formula.

Re: Nintendo to announce new console by end of fiscal year

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Post by andrekandre »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #24
legitster wrote: post #16

I finally bought a Switch for the family this last Christmas. Then immediately I get swamped by articles from Google about how the hardware is tired and they need a refresh. I think people are off their rocker. The experience is still pretty magical in 2024. I get that people are tired of the old thing and want the new thing, but it's hard to imagine what stops Nintendo could pull out to make me want to pay more than…

There were significant frame rate drops in Breath of the Wild (one of the tent pole games for the platform). Beefier hardware could have improved that experience.

tears of the kingdom as well, supposedly they spent a whole year just to optimize it before release and it still chugs sometimes

i have a small hope backwards compatibly also comes with some optional performance improvements for those games...

Re: Nintendo to announce new console by end of fiscal year

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Post by squigz »

Kye wrote: post #25
squigz wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's either just going to be an even beefier Switch This is exactly what it's going to be, though I have to ask how necessary that is. I wonder if there's a name for this phenomenon - EA Sports Syndrome or something - where companies go from making good products every few years, to marginally changing the same product and releasing it every year.

The Wii was two Gamecubes glued together and set records. It's a winning formula.

Did the Gamecube have motion controls?

Re: Nintendo to announce new console by end of fiscal year

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Post by squigz »

sparrc wrote: post #22
squigz wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's either just going to be an even beefier Switch This is exactly what it's going to be, though I have to ask how necessary that is. I wonder if there's a name for this phenomenon - EA Sports Syndrome or something - where companies go from making good products every few years, to marginally changing the same product and releasing it every year.

To be fair to Nintendo, they're very much still in the former category of making good products every few years. The switch was originally released 7 years ago, which is ancient in the world of consumer electronics.

While I don't fully disagree, I think Nintendo is slowly heading in that direction. I hope I'm wrong, as they're my favorite console company, and I'd hate to see them stop innovating and instead just release a slightly-beefier Switch for the next 5 years

Re: Nintendo to announce new console by end of fiscal year

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Post by mepian »

squigz wrote: post #20
legitster wrote: post #16

I finally bought a Switch for the family this last Christmas. Then immediately I get swamped by articles from Google about how the hardware is tired and they need a refresh. I think people are off their rocker. The experience is still pretty magical in 2024. I get that people are tired of the old thing and want the new thing, but it's hard to imagine what stops Nintendo could pull out to make me want to pay more than…

> It's either just going to be an even beefier Switch This is exactly what it's going to be, though I have to ask how necessary that is. I wonder if there's a name for this phenomenon - EA Sports Syndrome or something - where companies go from making good products every few years, to marginally changing the same product and releasing it every year.

Improving battery life, framerate, and rendering resolution (which is often below the panel's native 720p) is definitely welcome. Two-three hours is miserable compared to older Nintendo handhelds, and many titles routinely drop below 30 frames per second which is not very nice (and causes motion sickness for some people).

Re: Nintendo to announce new console by end of fiscal year

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Post by Lammy »

rgovostes wrote: post #7

See also: Osborne effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect

There is probably very little overlap between people who would base their purchasing decisions on the announcement-of-an-announcement and people who are buying Yet Another Switch in TYOOL 2024. They have already triple-dipped the former group with the original Switch model (like mine), the OLED model that looks like the original but with revised innards, and the mini model without detachable joycons.
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